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To Shoe or Not To Shoe

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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-05-22 10:09 AM
Subject: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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I've always been a fan of keeping horses barefoot. But then there's Cash. He was laid up for almost 3 months with a hoof abscess last fall. Literally half his hoof abscessed and there was a big hole in it and it was just awful. He had pads and front shoes on up till about 12 weeks ago while his hoof was growing out. He's been barefoot since then and his hoof looks beautiful. You'd never know what had happened! BUT he is just so darn sensitive on gravel! His old owner said he was always that way and the vet who did the pre-purchase said he does have thin soles (NO soreness in the heels, just in the toe area). My farrier said he thought he should be fine barefoot but there's a lot of gravel at my barn. All around the barn and up to the arenas is gravel, we have to go down a gravel road to get to the trails, one of the arenas is notoriously rocky (I try to avoid that one but sometimes it's all that's open). The farrier was just out on Monday and I haven't been able to do anything because he's sore. I'm just not sure if I should put shoes on him or if there's anything else I can try for his hooves.
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-05-22 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe



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 Find a sole toughening product like Hoof Freeze and just put shoes on the front.  If he's trying to save himself all the time and tender footed he's going to cause himself other issues.
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~BINGO~
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2015-05-22 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe



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Β  You could always try booting him. That's what I did for a long while. Unfortunately, my mare ended up back with front shoes. It just seems easier that way.
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-05-22 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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He came with easyboots but I could not get them to fit for the life of me so sold them. I considered it, but I feel like he'd have to have them on and off a lot.
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-05-22 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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rachellyn80 - 2015-05-22 10:44 AM

Β Find a sole toughening product like Hoof Freeze and just put shoes on the front. Β If he's trying to save himself all the time and tender footed he's going to cause himself other issues.

This - I tried to let my Streakin La Jolla go without shoes - just would not work with his thin soles, even a sole hardener wouldn't help with his front feet. He does really well with shoes on the front only though.
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ccarpe18
Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2015-05-22 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe



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I tried to go barefoot with my mare for a while... I started to study the hoof & trim myself, blah blah.

Abscess after abscess. & always lame on one side or another. This went on for about a year. My fiance called the farrier to get HIS horse shoed. Well the farrier typically worked with MY horse, got confused & shoed mine instead. I was so mad. I had come so far getting my mares hooves in order. Even though she was still lame or sore. Well 2 weeks later (with shoes) & no more lameness, no more abscesses. I am also on hard ground though.

I did however get Old Mac G2 boots, & she would be sound as long as they were on, but once they were off, she was ouchy.

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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-05-22 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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I have a couple bottles of another sole hardener...durasole I think? It's such a freakin pain! trying to get his hoof clean enough for it to take is hard and then there's purple hoof prints in my aisle. I haven't noticed any difference yet but I'll keep trying.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-05-22 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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Old macs is what I use, I have a chronic founder I have to keep in boots, the old macs don't rub her, she can wear them for days without any problems.

They never fall off

The only thing I do if I am not able to take them off is apply soaked iodine breast pads to her feet to prevent thrush, it also hardens her feet up and prevents abscesses from forming as iodine will kill all bugs and travels up into the sole, lamania, and hoof wall
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-05-22 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe



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I always keep fronts on my gelding now, no lameness issues....just want shoes on him. 
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OutlawsLastDance
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2015-05-22 1:38 PM
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I kept my baby barefoot as well until she was almost 6. Never had shoes in her life. She did very well barefooted, but the first summer we moved to our new house, she came up 3 legged lame one night. Took 3 weeks to blow the abscess out. A week later she had another on the same foot. Because she was getting them in the back, we put shoes on her all the way around and she hasn't had an abscess since. I'm an advocate for barefoot as long as the it suits the horse. I would say, if the horse is sound with shoes, and lame without, put the shoes on.
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2015-05-22 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe



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Griz - 2015-05-22 11:05 AM

rachellyn80 - 2015-05-22 10:44 AM

Β Find a sole toughening product like Hoof Freeze and just put shoes on the front. Β If he's trying to save himself all the time and tender footed he's going to cause himself other issues.

This - I tried to let my Streakin La Jolla go without shoes - just would not work with his thin soles, even a sole hardener wouldn't help with his front feet. He does really well with shoes on the front only though.

I just had to put front shoes on my Streakin La Jolla gelding because of being very thin soled. I've tried Iodine and Melaleuca oil to harden them with no luck
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-05-22 10:55 PM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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 venice turpentine.. hardens them but id shoe her front.. its not worth the soreness..
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-22 11:20 PM
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I would keep her front shoed also. No sense her being sore all the time, I have a gelding thats thin sole and I have to keep him shoed on the front. 
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SaraJean
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2015-05-22 11:25 PM
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I'm all for keeping one barefoot if it's right for that particular horse. But as I know where you board & how much gravel there is, I'd shoe. We shoe dad's shooing horse for that very reason, he's 100% sound barefoot but the gravel outside the arena makes him just tender enough that he protects himself & then won't stretch out & run. Boots do work great, I've used them in the past, but they're a pain to deal with.
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-05-22 11:48 PM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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I'm sold. In a few weeks Cash will be getting a new pair of shoes.
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2015-05-23 12:14 AM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe



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 Good idea.  I tried and I didn't want to keep up with the booting and the treatment and watching my horse ginp around.  Our arena is gravel-like--so he was miserable.  The second he got his shoes back on he was striding out and running everywhere--I got a whole new horse!
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-05-23 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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I have an older Broodie and she just isn't comfortable without shoes.  They make all the difference in the world for her.  So I think your horse is telling you he would be more comfortable in shoes 
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-05-23 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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I wish I would have done this a few days ago. The nerd is limping on the gravel. I just hope it's not a stone bruise or abscess again.
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imturnin3
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2015-05-24 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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Put mine back in shoes, took x rays he was super thin,he couldn't walk on hard clumps of dirt w/out gimping. I tried everything! But in south louisiana moisture and soft hooves are a common thing, tried turpentine, pine tar, hoof hardeners, iodine, for a year, with no avail:/
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-05-24 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: To Shoe or Not To Shoe


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I got some hoof packing so if he DID bruise it at least he'll have a little padding.
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