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Location: Georgia | I've recently posted about my 6 year old mare that I'm in the process of legging up for the Southern States Triple Crown Barrel Race in July. Since starting her training, we've been battling what seems to be belly/ulcer issues. I have started her on 60cc twice a day of Aloe Vera juice and I have ordered SmartPak's U-Gard and Omega 3 supplements as well. She's showing a lot of promise in the pattern, she's trotting a very correct pattern but trotting is all I can get out of her until we get this tummy ache issue squared away. Even though I want to push her to get ready for July, I don't want to take the risk of blowing up such a talented horse before she's mentally and physically ready to be pushed. I honestly feel like she could be ready but at this point the risk is not worth it to me.
This leaves me to my next question... What are the pros/cons of borrowing a horse for an event like this? Normally I would just let it be and shoot for the next show, but this show holds a lot of meaning to me. This will be my first competitive run since getting married and having children 5 years ago. So needless to say, I've been really looking forward to this barrel race. |
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| I wouldn't borrow one unless I had to. Like if your close to winning a saddle and need points, year end standings etc. And it really depends on WHO your borrowing from. Friends? I would for sure have the horse insured etc. Hard call. |
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| Sometimes it's just better to suck it up and wait it out.
About the only Pro is that you'll get to run. Maybe you'll win money. Maybe you'll hit a barrel.
Cons - Not knowing the horse you're riding, not being "with" said horse, probably paying a lease fee, possibility of hurting someone's horse, and a whole other laundry list of issues and what ifs. |
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Location: Georgia | FLITASTIC - 2015-05-21 12:01 PM
I wouldn't borrow one unless I had to. Like if your close to winning a saddle and need points, year end standings etc. And it really depends on WHO your borrowing from. Friends? I would for sure have the horse insured etc. Hard call.
I completely understand. It's definitely not a "have to" situation. It's more of a "heart wants" situation and ultimately I can move on and wait for another opportunity. It seems petty that I'm disappointed over it but it would mean more to me if I was competing on her anyway. Thanks for the insight! |
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Location: Georgia | Nateracer - 2015-05-21 12:06 PM
Sometimes it's just better to suck it up and wait it out.
About the only Pro is that you'll get to run. Maybe you'll win money. Maybe you'll hit a barrel.
Cons - Not knowing the horse you're riding, not being "with" said horse, probably paying a lease fee, possibility of hurting someone's horse, and a whole other laundry list of issues and what ifs.
That's what I'm thinking. Thank you! |
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Location: Southern Indiana | Well my opinion was on the other side of the fence, until I re-read and saw that you said it was going to be your first run back. Probably not such a great idea if you have taken sometime off to run an unfamiliar horse when your getting back in the game.
However, I see nothing wrong with borrowing a horse from someone. There are plenty of people out there that are wanting someone to haul something for them. As long as you have trust and a clear line of the deal, for example if a vet was needed who would pay what? It's really no different than someone paying you to train/ or ride one. Your just not making any money out of the deal. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I dont borrow horses if mine is not ready are hurt I just wait it out and I wont let anyone borrow my horses. |
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Location: Georgia | TheDutchMan01 - 2015-05-21 12:42 PM
Well my opinion was on the other side of the fence, until I re-read and saw that you said it was going to be your first run back. Probably not such a great idea if you have taken sometime off to run an unfamiliar horse when your getting back in the game.
However, I see nothing wrong with borrowing a horse from someone. There are plenty of people out there that are wanting someone to haul something for them. As long as you have trust and a clear line of the deal, for example if a vet was needed who would pay what? It's really no different than someone paying you to train/ or ride one. Your just not making any money out of the deal.
Thank you for a different perspective. I've ridden and trained for others but I haven't technically "borrowed" a horse before. |
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| Klittle3 - 2015-05-21 10:21 AM
TheDutchMan01 - 2015-05-21 12:42 PM
Well my opinion was on the other side of the fence, until I re-read and saw that you said it was going to be your first run back. Probably not such a great idea if you have taken sometime off to run an unfamiliar horse when your getting back in the game.
However, I see nothing wrong with borrowing a horse from someone. There are plenty of people out there that are wanting someone to haul something for them. As long as you have trust and a clear line of the deal, for example if a vet was needed who would pay what? It's really no different than someone paying you to train/ or ride one. Your just not making any money out of the deal.
Thank you for a different perspective. I've ridden and trained for others but I haven't technically "borrowed" a horse before.
Is there a way you could purchase a started colt or something that would be YOUR horse still while yours recovers? |
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| I only see con's when it comes to borrowing horses. There are SO many risk factors, safety, and liability issues that go along with it. An accidental slip around a barrel while you're running could be career ending for you or the horse, hence legality issues of it too. Not to mention traffic accidents, other horses kicking that horse, colic etc... |
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Location: Georgia | FLITASTIC - 2015-05-21 1:29 PM
Klittle3 - 2015-05-21 10:21 AM
TheDutchMan01 - 2015-05-21 12:42 PM
Well my opinion was on the other side of the fence, until I re-read and saw that you said it was going to be your first run back. Probably not such a great idea if you have taken sometime off to run an unfamiliar horse when your getting back in the game.
However, I see nothing wrong with borrowing a horse from someone. There are plenty of people out there that are wanting someone to haul something for them. As long as you have trust and a clear line of the deal, for example if a vet was needed who would pay what? It's really no different than someone paying you to train/ or ride one. Your just not making any money out of the deal.
Thank you for a different perspective. I've ridden and trained for others but I haven't technically "borrowed" a horse before.
Is there a way you could purchase a started colt or something that would be YOUR horse still while yours recovers?
I would love to be able to purchase another, but financially I'm not in the position to purchase. I'm hoping thay will be an option for the future because having a backup would solve my issue! |
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| I wouldn't pick that race to be my first run back it has too many fees, too much pressure, and you will probably be feeling your nerves. I'd pick a good sized local show for my first one back. Hope you didn't pre-enter...
I wouldn't borrow another horse. I'd save the money from not paying those fees to enter and buy ulcer meds, then attend a local show, especially with a green horse thats nervous. Since you said your starting her training I'd def get some local shows under my belt first. |
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Location: California | I wouldn't for the sole fact that everytime I do borrow one something goes wrong or happens. I won't do it anymore. My only exception is - I will borrow a rope horse AT a roping or rodeo where the owner hauls and takes care of the horse and I just warm up and use the horse right then and there. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I live by this quote.........
"Neither a borrower nor a lender be,
For loan oft loses both itself and friend...." |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2015-05-21 6:47 PM
I live by this quote.........
"Neither a borrower nor a lender be,
For loan oft loses both itself and friend...."
Thats a very wise quot and I also live by it..  |
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Location: Georgia | NJJ - 2015-05-21 7:47 PM
I live by this quote.........
"Neither a borrower nor a lender be,
For loan oft loses both itself and friend...."
That's a great quote. Thank you! |
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| I would fix the ulcer problems first. If you have to wait it out, then I'd wait it out. We've had injuries and things along the way that kept us out of competition. If we didn't have another horse in the barn to run, we'd wait it out. I'm always afraid of something happening to the "borrowed" horse. |
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I dont think borrowing a horse is smart under ANY circumstance. In the last two years alone I've seen three horses that had to be put down under the care of someone other than their owner. Two of those were colic cases and one was a broken leg while the person was running the horse. It's just not worth it.... |
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