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teed
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2015-06-22 3:35 PM
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I've known these people for several years as passing friends - he rode as horse for me several years ago & did a good job. I would have had no problem with the 900 if she would have told me that from the get go. This colt has been saddled and messed with a bunch so it's not like she doesn't know any thing. And telling me 'our board has always been 350' doesn't cut it for me cause its been like 7 years since they rode one for me. I specifically asked what is your 30 day price for breaking a colt to ride. For 900 I could have sent that colt to some of the better known trainers cause we are in the middle of horse country usa....the more I think about it the more I could kick myself for not loading her right back up - I'm still tempted to go and get her anyway & screw the semi friendship.
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RacingQH
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Posted 2015-06-22 5:01 PM
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I haven't read all the  replies, but around here, generally board is NOT included.  You either pay board above and beyone the fee for starting/riding the horse, OR you being your own feed.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-06-22 11:40 PM
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Dumb question maybe---is it different price for starting vs training a horse?
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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2015-06-23 12:11 AM
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I would not train a horse for anyone for less than $1250.00 a month. I can not understand how these folks can do it for less than that with the cost of hay and feed in addition to all the time it takes to get it done correctly. I suppose there's profit in high numbers, but I don't know how anyone can effectively ride and train 10 or more horses a day.

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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-06-23 9:49 AM
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Chandler's Mom - 2015-06-22 11:40 PM Dumb question maybe---is it different price for starting vs training a horse?

In the case of our training facility-yes. The charge to start a colt is higher because of the inherit risk to the rider that come with it. Also the fact that most just do not enjoy colt starting, so the money has to make it worth their while. 
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-06-23 9:57 AM
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classicpotatochip - 2015-06-22 8:16 AM
scwebster - 2015-06-22 7:37 AM While I think $550 is a steal, I would have been caught off guard as well if I was expecting a certain price and then it was much different upon arrival. They should have been more clear. 
They definitely should have been very clear about exactly what the charges are, so the OP could have made adjustments or not taken the horse out there at all. I would have been surprised too and needed to recalibrate. I just don't feel that the board is unreasonable because: Colts need to eat a lot more when they're under stress from training, on top of still growing. The price per pound of feed/hay just isn't cheap anymore. Also, when you factor in the work of unloading hay, or the cost and work of putting up your own hay, feeding daily, then the trip the feedstore for grain, then unloading the grain, then feeding the grain, and the experience that requires the maintenance of a colt so he doesn't get underweight, etc, etc, those people deserve to be paid for their work on top of the money that they're putting into the horse. Honestly, until people have had a young horse come home untouched, and extremely thin from neglect, most don't realize how valuable the extra money paid to someone reliable really is! I just don't mind paying for somebody that I know is going to take care of my valuable animal. To the OP, if you have any doubts to what your money is going for, I'd definitely be requesting videos and pictures, if not just going out there once a week to check up on the situation.
You are so right!! Hit the nail on the head! My husband charges by the ride (rides 5 or 6 days per week), and 5$ a day for the feed and care of the horse. If the weather is bad the horses dont get ridden but the owner isnt charged for those days either. Lots of people do not realize the time, care, and other details that go into making a good horse. 

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tennesseecowgirl
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2015-06-23 11:34 AM
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Geez... Y'all pay a lot for training. I'm doing good getting people to pay $400/month for training and that includes feed/hay and board. I must live in an area filled with some cheap individuals. I've even had people tell me I charge too much for training.
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-06-23 11:42 AM
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tennesseecowgirl - 2015-06-23 11:34 AM Geez... Y'all pay a lot for training. I'm doing good getting people to pay $400/month for training and that includes feed/hay and board. I must live in an area filled with some cheap individuals. I've even had people tell me I charge too much for training.

Get them to call around! lol. Your price is CHEAP CHEAP. I dont know how you do it for that :)
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tennesseecowgirl
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2015-06-23 12:49 PM
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scwebster - 2015-06-23 12:42 PM

tennesseecowgirl - 2015-06-23 11:34 AM Geez... Y'all pay a lot for training. I'm doing good getting people to pay $400/month for training and that includes feed/hay and board. I must live in an area filled with some cheap individuals. I've even had people tell me I charge too much for training.

Get them to call around! lol. Your price is CHEAP CHEAP. I dont know how you do it for that :)

My hay guy cuts me a deal on round bales (horse quality that we fork off of into the stalls) and we do all the work around the barn ourselves. Even charging as little as I do, I still make more money than when I had a part time job. I make more money off of just 2 horses than I did at my last job. It amazes me that some people claim I still charge too much. They obviously haven't looked into what some tother trainers charge.
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-06-23 12:58 PM
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I charged (when I did it) $400-$500 to break colts plus board was $200.

I would say its common that board is additional but I agree she should have expressed this clearly before it was a done deal.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-06-23 1:45 PM
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grinandbareit - 2015-06-23 1:11 AM I would not train a horse for anyone for less than $1250.00 a month. I can not understand how these folks can do it for less than that with the cost of hay and feed in addition to all the time it takes to get it done correctly. I suppose there's profit in high numbers, but I don't know how anyone can effectively ride and train 10 or more horses a day.

Ditto.. we are 450.00 board and 800.00 training as well... 
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