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myhre Reg. Aug 2009	Posted 2015-06-25 7:10 PM Subject: horse question
Expert Posts: 1255	Three weeks ago my 20 year old gelding had a puffy area between jaw and it burst open and drained so I gave him pennicilin and it healed o.k but today I notixed a lump midway down his neck about the size of 50 piece and I have no idea what it could be.
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cheryl makofka Reg. Jan 2011	Posted 2015-06-25 7:39 PM Subject: RE: horse question
The Advice Guru Posts: 6419	Strangles or pigeon fever
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vjls Reg. Mar 2005	Posted 2015-06-27 1:23 PM Subject: RE: horse question
Miracle in the Making Posts: 4013	exactly if you have other horse odds are you are gonna have a bunch of sick ponies wash everything bleach water quartnee the best u can call a vet
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Southtxponygirl Reg. Nov 2006	Posted 2015-06-27 2:10 PM Subject: RE: horse question
A Somebody to Everybody Posts: 41354 Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas	cheryl makofka - 2015-06-25 7:39 PM Strangles or pigeon fever Ditto could be either one of these, but I'm thinking that its strangles, but pigeon fever is very possible. I have never dealt with strangles thank goodness but I have with pigeon fever, nasty stuff.
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Crowned Image Reg. Jan 2011	Posted 2015-06-27 3:09 PM Subject: RE: horse question
I Chore in Chucks Posts: 2882 Location: MD	call your vet. agree with the others, my first guess was strangles, pigeon fever also a possibility.
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BARRELHORSE USA Reg. Sep 2011	Posted 2015-06-28 11:06 AM Subject: RE: horse question
	myhre - 2015-06-25 7:10 PM Three weeks ago my 20 year old gelding had a puffy area between jaw and it burst open and drained so I gave him pennicilin and it healed o.k but today I notixed a lump midway down his neck about the size of 50 piece and I have no idea what it could be. Your horse evidently had a case of strangles with the spot that burst and drained between his jaws which is the normal location for strangles to appear. The treatment for strangles as long as the horse is eating and drinking is doing nothing since it is a virus and horses immune attack system and running a fever is the only thing that can attack a virus due to the protective protein shell a virus has as protection. Giving a horse an antibiotic that has strangles is a major NO - NO ... it can drive the strangles internally to other lymph glands and create bastard strangles which may be your situation. .. if so expect this lump to burst and start draining and pay attention to areas in the poll area, along rib cage and on buttocks. It is time to consult a vet and decide if it is bastard strangles and if to start a major high dosage rate of specific antibiotics attempting to stop its progression. OR .. if the lump is an abscess at your injection site or directly below it due to poorly given shot that allowed germs or antibiotics to get under the skin rather than deep into the muscle tissue ... Good luck ... hoping it is not bastard strangles ...
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cheryl makofka Reg. Jan 2011	Posted 2015-06-28 11:22 AM Subject: RE: horse question
The Advice Guru Posts: 6419	BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-06-28 11:06 AM myhre - 2015-06-25 7:10 PM Three weeks ago my 20 year old gelding had a puffy area between jaw and it burst open and drained so I gave him pennicilin and it healed o.k but today I notixed a lump midway down his neck about the size of 50 piece and I have no idea what it could be. Your horse evidently had a case of strangles with the spot that burst and drained between his jaws which is the normal location for strangles to appear. The treatment for strangles as long as the horse is eating and drinking is doing nothing since it is a virus and horses immune attack system and running a fever is the only thing that can attack a virus due to the protective protein shell a virus has as protection. Giving a horse an antibiotic that has strangles is a major NO - NO ... it can drive the strangles internally to other lymph glands and create bastard strangles which may be your situation. .. if so expect this lump to burst and start draining and pay attention to areas in the poll area, along rib cage and on buttocks. It is time to consult a vet and decide if it is bastard strangles and if to start a major high dosage rate of specific antibiotics attempting to stop its progression. OR .. if the lump is an abscess at your injection site or directly below it due to poorly given shot that allowed germs or antibiotics to get under the skin rather than deep into the muscle tissue ... Good luck ... hoping it is not bastard strangles ... I have to clarify strangles is not a virus, it is a bacteria from either the strep or staph family I can recall and don't have my book with me. You can give penicillin as per vet consult once it has burst, I had strangles go through my herd a few years ago and had a few we gave penicillin to to speed up the healing process. By speeding up the healing process I was able to contain the strangles within a week. To the op The part that makes me go hmmm about strangles is generally they will not burst open in 2 different places, this makes me think pigeon fever, a vet would have to culture for a diagnosis which if you have a good repor with your vet he may let you culture it yourself wash the site first then rotate the swab in the wound for 15 seconds
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myhre Reg. Aug 2009	Posted 2015-06-28 7:27 PM Subject: RE: horse question
Expert Posts: 1255	Thanks for the input.
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FlyingHigh1454 Reg. Oct 2013	Posted 2015-06-28 8:09 PM Subject: RE: horse question
Elite Veteran Posts: 1131	We had a horse that we thought had strangles, but it ended up just being a bad abscess that busted, I recommend calling your vet asap and they can diagnose a lot better than people over the internet.
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