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| Please share your experience with compounded omeprazole. I think I need to treat my mare again because my maintenance is obviously not working and find a new maintenance. Any suggestions for that would be great. Her symptoms are that she will quit finishing her feed but continue to eat forage as normal and if I don't treat her she will gradually get worse and become scared of her own shaddow which is NOT like her. When it got bad last year she went off feed almost totally and couldn't/wouldn't collect and lift her back at all. I treated her with Gastrogard. I can't afford to do that again. I'm thinking compounded omeprazole or I can get ranitidine for $90/months worth at work.
My current maintenance: 24/7 turnout, grass during the day, arena with hay at night with another horse. GUT by Uckele once daily, twice on race days, and ranitidine every 8 hours on race days (I think I need to start the day before to really help her but I forgot *face palm*).
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Location: California | My stallion (now gelding) was boarded last fall for a few months. Long story short he looked absolutely terrible and would not finish his meals. He was scoped an diagnosed with Stage 2 ulcers. After a few days on Omeprazole he was finishing his meals again and after a few weeks you could see a difference in his demeanor and coat/body condition. After a month or so on the meds I stopped and he has been perfect ever since. I do have it on me though and will give him some for awhile if I move him or haul him (he gets really nervous when he is moved from pens or to a different barn.) So, yes, I have had great results with it. |
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| I used the stuff Douglas produced and had great results, but I believe that is no longer an option
I am not a fan of rantiandine, I believe it is a waste of money, in the medical field we don't use it to cure ulcers, and the horses would have to swallow the pill whole as the pills are enteric coated to move through the stomach, I know my horses won't touch whole pills.
I would look at your grain you are feeding as my guess is it has a high NSC content causing it to ferment in the hind gut causing a shift in the ph giving her a belly ache and causing ulcers.
For something a little less expensive I would look at the clays, Redmond has a clay to help with ulcers.
I have used green clay and had great results with it, even when having to give my crippled mare bute for 30 days she never developed ulcers while on the clay.
The more I read about clay the more I learn green clay is the least superior in curing ulcers (this is natural paths saying this, no scholarly research papers). Bentonite clay is supposed to be the best
Also papaya I had one mare after 30 days of getting papaya puréed on her grain her symptoms went away, when I spoke to my vet about this, he said there have actually been scholarly papers/research completed years ago proving papaya does cure ulcers in horses, it also works as a natural dewormer |
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Location: TN | I treated a mare with it a couple years ago and it definitely helped. She started gaining weight and no longer showed signs of ulcers. I'm currently treating a different horse with THE GastroPlus and changed his feed to a low starch option NSC 13% and he's doing better as well so that's another option.
Cheryl, where did you get the papaya puree? Did you horse seem to like the taste of it? I'm thinking it might work to help disguise the taste of my horse's supplement and help with stomach relief at the same time. |
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| KatieMac88 - 2015-06-26 9:47 AM
I treated a mare with it a couple years ago and it definitely helped. She started gaining weight and no longer showed signs of ulcers. I'm currently treating a different horse with THE GastroPlus and changed his feed to a low starch option NSC 13% and he's doing better as well so that's another option.
Cheryl, where did you get the papaya puree? Did you horse seem to like the taste of it? I'm thinking it might work to help disguise the taste of my horse's supplement and help with stomach relief at the same time.
My horses love the taste of papaya, I use it with oral antibiotics, joint suppliments, etc.
I get it from a natural food store |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | When the FDA sent me a letter telling me to stop selling omeprazole they had that my product was like 36% high. Their measurement was flawed because they packed the scoop much fuller than recommended to support their claim. Stay tuned. I am working on a different formula with a different ingredient. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | My mare lives on it during the season. I tried to cut it out and only use it when hauling and she would still go off her feed on the road. And by off her feed I mean she wouldnt touch anything but water. She would then take a day or two to get back into routine and back on her feed and a few days later we were on the road again. This year I only went to one run before I decided not to cut corners. she's on 10ml of compounded omeprazole with her morning ration and she has yet to go off her feed. I hope and pray that one day I can find something that works as well for her but until then, I'll stick with this. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2015-06-26 9:41 AM
I used the stuff Douglas produced and had great results, but I believe that is no longer an option
I am not a fan of rantiandine, I believe it is a waste of money, in the medical field we don't use it to cure ulcers, and the horses would have to swallow the pill whole as the pills are enteric coated to move through the stomach, I know my horses won't touch whole pills.
I would look at your grain you are feeding as my guess is it has a high NSC content causing it to ferment in the hind gut causing a shift in the ph giving her a belly ache and causing ulcers.
For something a little less expensive I would look at the clays, Redmond has a clay to help with ulcers.
I have used green clay and had great results with it, even when having to give my crippled mare bute for 30 days she never developed ulcers while on the clay.
The more I read about clay the more I learn green clay is the least superior in curing ulcers (this is natural paths saying this, no scholarly research papers). Bentonite clay is supposed to be the best
Also papaya I had one mare after 30 days of getting papaya puréed on her grain her symptoms went away, when I spoke to my vet about this, he said there have actually been scholarly papers/research completed years ago proving papaya does cure ulcers in horses, it also works as a natural dewormer
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| trulyaroyaljem13 - 2015-06-26 3:33 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-06-26 9:41 AM
I used the stuff Douglas produced and had great results, but I believe that is no longer an option
I am not a fan of rantiandine, I believe it is a waste of money, in the medical field we don't use it to cure ulcers, and the horses would have to swallow the pill whole as the pills are enteric coated to move through the stomach, I know my horses won't touch whole pills.
I would look at your grain you are feeding as my guess is it has a high NSC content causing it to ferment in the hind gut causing a shift in the ph giving her a belly ache and causing ulcers.
For something a little less expensive I would look at the clays, Redmond has a clay to help with ulcers.
I have used green clay and had great results with it, even when having to give my crippled mare bute for 30 days she never developed ulcers while on the clay.
The more I read about clay the more I learn green clay is the least superior in curing ulcers (this is natural paths saying this, no scholarly research papers). Bentonite clay is supposed to be the best
Also papaya I had one mare after 30 days of getting papaya puréed on her grain her symptoms went away, when I spoke to my vet about this, he said there have actually been scholarly papers/research completed years ago proving papaya does cure ulcers in horses, it also works as a natural dewormer
how much papaya are you feeding daily?
To treat stomach problems 1/4 cup daily
For flavouring so they take their meds 30-60cc
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| bump for any others that would like to give input. You are welcome to make an option that just allows you to see results. I clearly did not think that one through. |
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Location: Willows, CA | While not every horse can be ulcer free with a better management program, most can. In 50 years of owning horses, I have never owned a horse that has had ulcers. I don't think this just a coincidence. Diet management can greatly effect this issue, plus, it costs less than managing ulcers month after month. |
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Location: WI | I give omep/ranitidine paste from My Precision Pharmacy, day before, each day hauling, and day after. I like this combo as the ranititdine gives immediate relief, then the omep is the longer lasting drug - 24hrs. And I like the paste as I know he gets it and can't pick around it like a powder. And it runs less than $4/dose, so very reasonable.
It keeps him eating well on the road - I definitely notice a difference when I don't use it. |
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Location: Deep South | Those of you getting yours from My Precision Pharmacy, how are you getting your scripts? Did you have to have your horse scoped first and the vet wrote it? |
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Location: WI | BamaCanChaser - 2015-06-29 10:46 AM Those of you getting yours from My Precision Pharmacy, how are you getting your scripts? Did you have to have your horse scoped first and the vet wrote it?
That would depend on your vet. I just asked mine and he gave me a script. |
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| linds - 2015-06-29 1:26 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2015-06-29 10:46 AM Those of you getting yours from My Precision Pharmacy, how are you getting your scripts? Did you have to have your horse scoped first and the vet wrote it?
That would depend on your vet. I just asked mine and he gave me a script.
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Location: Valley City,ND | Ask the compounding pharmacy for an independent analytical lab report proving the formula is stable and potent with an expiration date. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I think my donkey has ulcers. Where do you all get your omeprazole? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | winwillows - 2015-06-28 11:01 AM While not every horse can be ulcer free with a better management program, most can. In 50 years of owning horses, I have never owned a horse that has had ulcers. I don't think this just a coincidence. Diet management can greatly effect this issue, plus, it costs less than managing ulcers month after month.
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