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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | Oregonracer2 - 2013-12-10 7:50 PM To answer your doubts as to whether or not the Clayton babies will futurity.... a Clayton colt just won $7500 in the Super Stakes race! Way to go Janae and Scamp!
I was SOOO happy to see that horse place!! Maybe now it'll shut people up - at least I can hope - I get tired of all the negativity towards Clayton! |
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Location: MD | Having now seen a couple of Clayton foals run this week, I have to say, I have been impressed with them. Nice looking horses that have shown some definite quality. |
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Location: ND | WrapSnap - 2013-12-11 8:02 PM Having now seen a couple of Clayton foals run this week, I have to say, I have been impressed with them. Nice looking horses that have shown some definite quality.
i think some of the evaluation of Clayton's offspring needs to be held until it is seen how his offspring out of good mares and not just the pick of the litter great mares perform. But even at this point, he is a success.......
i'm still gonna wait and save my money for Bo's clone.... |
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Location: MD | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-11 8:10 PM
WrapSnap - 2013-12-11 8:02 PM Having now seen a couple of Clayton foals run this week, I have to say, I have been impressed with them. Nice looking horses that have shown some definite quality.
i think some of the evaluation of Clayton's offspring needs to be held until it is seen how his offspring out of good mares and not just the pick of the litter great mares perform. But even at this point, he is a success.......
i'm still gonna wait and save my money for Bo's clone....
I agree that I'm not going to base my overall opinion of Clayton as a sire off of the two colts that I have seen this week. My opinion of the two colts that I have seen is that they have both exhibited some quality. I don't think we'll ever see any foals out of anything other than "pick of the litter" mares. |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | Does anyone have any updates on Clayton babies? Or Another Shot? |
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Location: Ft Worth TX | Heres my opinion for what its worth... A month or so ago I read an article that did research on a large group of TB and tied in their breeding and ranked them with different crosses (elite/ weak mare/sire). Here the order they were ranked after the research was done.
1. Elite Mare, Weak Stallion
2. Elite Mare, Elite stallion
3. Weak mare, Weak Stallion
4. Weak Mare, Elite Stallion
With that being said, and considering Clayton was bred to "Elite mares," I would only expect them to pan out well performing. However we need to remember not every horse is cut out to make a futurity horse, some are late bloomers. IMO Scamper was not bred to be anything but a "late bloomer." In my mind I will be curious as to what the coming years bring with his offspring more then anything. Now say in the next 3-4 years none of them made anything, then I would say he just didn't have siring power (Secretariat NEVER made a great sire in racing, but was a good maternal sire). It happens and no one knows what he will produce it was a big risk to begin with, now we sit and watch. |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | I was wondering how they were doing. I am not trying to start a fight. Cloning controversy aside. Curious if they were like peppy San badgers, need a day job every day. |
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Location: South Central Florida | Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-08-23 12:57 AM Heres my opinion for what its worth... A month or so ago I read an article that did research on a large group of TB and tied in their breeding and ranked them with different crosses (elite/ weak mare/sire). Here the order they were ranked after the research was done. 1. Elite Mare, Weak Stallion 2. Elite Mare, Elite stallion 3. Weak mare, Weak Stallion 4. Weak Mare, Elite Stallion With that being said, and considering Clayton was bred to "Elite mares," I would only expect them to pan out well performing. However we need to remember not every horse is cut out to make a futurity horse, some are late bloomers. IMO Scamper was not bred to be anything but a "late bloomer." In my mind I will be curious as to what the coming years bring with his offspring more then anything. Now say in the next 3-4 years none of them made anything, then I would say he just didn't have siring power (Secretariat NEVER made a great sire in racing, but was a good maternal sire). It happens and no one knows what he will produce it was a big risk to begin with, now we sit and watch.
Very interesting.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Only Elite mares should be bred to anything. JMHO |
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Location: Living in my Promised Land | Nevertooold - 2015-08-23 12:27 PM Only Elite mares should be bred to anything. JMHO
How many times can I like this post? You are so right! |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-08-23 12:27 PM
Only Elite mares should be bred to anything. JMHO
This kind of made me chuckle, especially on this thread. Neither Scamper's dam or sire were necessarily "elite" horses. |
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| cyount2009 - 2015-08-24 12:58 PM
Nevertooold - 2015-08-23 12:27 PM
Only Elite mares should be bred to anything. JMHO
This kind of made me chuckle, especially on this thread. Neither Scamper's dam or sire were necessarily "elite" horses.
And exactly how many Scamper's have there been? He is one of a kind for a reason and a far cry from what is normal. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SKM - 2015-08-24 2:11 PM cyount2009 - 2015-08-24 12:58 PM Nevertooold - 2015-08-23 12:27 PM Only Elite mares should be bred to anything. JMHO This kind of made me chuckle, especially on this thread. Neither Scamper's dam or sire were necessarily "elite" horses. And exactly how many Scamper's have there been? He is one of a kind for a reason and a far cry from what is normal.
Supports my post. LOL
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