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| Wow. It is all making sense now. How disappointing. Where there is big $, there is corruption. Another angle on this that comes to my mind is this: if I won a big check at the American and was still waiting to be paid, I would be raising hell via an attorney. However if I was guilty of trying to cheat, I would be "patiently waiting". Is the short round on the internet anywhere that we can see it? |
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| RunninOnARooster - 2015-08-20 5:37 PM
What would they have done had the "non pro" missed?, broken a barrier or calf got up? They didn't know the draw going into it so they couldn't make a real plan. And it would be a big gamble for the non pro he could ensure 111k but had he won out right it would have been 1/2 million (at that time) so seems to be like he wouldn't want to give that up
It does seem suspicious for sure but too many moving parts for them to really think they could get away with cheating. Such a shame.
This was my thoughts exactly... seems like a big gamble. and wouldnt they only get about 83k because it would splt between the 4? |
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Location: OH | I have no idea on this, just speculating, but say they said something as a joke---Hey, why don't we lose on purpose and then split it, and it was said as a joke. Then it actually went down a certain way and someone had overheard the joke--BOOM, a conspiracy happens. Again---just speculation. |
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| If our rumor mill here in TX has a grain of truth to it NOT all 4 were in on it, one of the non pro ropers refused to go along with the deal. I have heard they have plenty of text messages prior to the finals to confirm there was going to throw the event in order for all the cowboys to get paid and the one was not going to go along with it. I personally think they should be banned from the American for life |
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Location: Texas | RunninOnARooster - 2015-08-20 5:37 PM What would they have done had the "non pro" missed?, broken a barrier or calf got up? They didn't know the draw going into it so they couldn't make a real plan. And it would be a big gamble for the non pro he could ensure 111k but had he won out right it would have been 1/2 million (at that time) so seems to be like he wouldn't want to give that up It does seem suspicious for sure but too many moving parts for them to really think they could get away with cheating. Such a shame.
Unless he thought he wouldn't win on his own. |
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| jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 8:52 AM
If our rumor mill here in TX has a grain of truth to it NOT all 4 were in on it, one of the non pro ropers refused to go along with the deal. I have heard they have plenty of text messages prior to the finals to confirm there was going to throw the event in order for all the cowboys to get paid and the one was not going to go along with it. I personally think they should be banned from the American for life
I dont know why you would put that in writing/texts...dumb... 
I just feel like that would be really hard to plan before The American because you never know who would be in the top 4... I dunno, I am interested to see how this all plays out because I feel like this is going to be a very difficult investigation. Were there 2 non-pros in the final 4? I only know a select few calf ropers. |
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| I wouldn't exactly call them non-pros. While Tuf and Timber have definitely won more and qualified for the NFR multiple times, Reese is also an NFR qualifier and Cole probably would be if he traveled half as hard as those guys. He is a family man with a real job. This is why I love the American. Gives guys like him a chance to show what they've got, without having to go through bankruptcy a few times and live on the road to do it. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 8:52 AM
If our rumor mill here in TX has a grain of truth to it NOT all 4 were in on it, one of the non pro ropers refused to go along with the deal. I have heard they have plenty of text messages prior to the finals to confirm there was going to throw the event in order for all the cowboys to get paid and the one was not going to go along with it. I personally think they should be banned from the American for life
Then if there are texts you would think it would be a slam dunk case and already settled. I mean it's been awhile ! |
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| mreklaw - 2015-08-21 10:17 AM jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 8:52 AM If our rumor mill here in TX has a grain of truth to it NOT all 4 were in on it, one of the non pro ropers refused to go along with the deal. I have heard they have plenty of text messages prior to the finals to confirm there was going to throw the event in order for all the cowboys to get paid and the one was not going to go along with it. I personally think they should be banned from the American for life Then if there are texts you would think it would be a slam dunk case and already settled. I mean it's been awhile !
Unless they were more subtle and did not outright descibe their plan. IDK without concrete texts or facts how they can ever prove it, it seems to be a he said/he said situation. |
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| I agree SpaceCowboy I could not agree with you more I think all the final 4 are top notch ropers I used the term for a quick reference should have said qualifiers for the million and I really hate this situation its what made the American so GREAT to watch and compete. And am so proud of the ONE who said NO I will not be a part of this because someday I would have to explain this to my children. |
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| jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 10:46 AM I agree SpaceCowboy I could not agree with you more I think all the final 4 are top notch ropers I used the term for a quick reference should have said qualifiers for the million and I really hate this situation its what made the American so GREAT to watch and compete. And am so proud of the ONE who said NO I will not be a part of this because someday I would have to explain this to my children.
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Location: That part of Texas | mreklaw - 2015-08-21 10:17 AM jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 8:52 AM If our rumor mill here in TX has a grain of truth to it NOT all 4 were in on it, one of the non pro ropers refused to go along with the deal. I have heard they have plenty of text messages prior to the finals to confirm there was going to throw the event in order for all the cowboys to get paid and the one was not going to go along with it. I personally think they should be banned from the American for life Then if there are texts you would think it would be a slam dunk case and already settled. I mean it's been awhile !
In a criminal investigation, it takes a long time to subpeona cell phone records and text messages. I'm not surprised at the timing. |
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Location: The edge of no where | jbw tx mom - 2015-08-21 10:46 AM I agree SpaceCowboy I could not agree with you more I think all the final 4 are top notch ropers I used the term for a quick reference should have said qualifiers for the million and I really hate this situation its what made the American so GREAT to watch and compete. And am so proud of the ONE who said NO I will not be a part of this because someday I would have to explain this to my children.
When you stop and think about it....it says a lot about his integrity. To be one of the wild cards and pressured by the big names and still stand your ground. There's some good guys out there. |
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| Has anyone taken the time to fact check Randy Bernard's statements? Just saying.... |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | run2run - 2015-08-22 10:47 AM Has anyone taken the time to fact check Randy Bernard's statements? Just saying....
What exactly should be "fact checked"? Would you care to enlighten us? |
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