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| SKM - 2015-09-15 1:43 PM
MS2011 - 2015-09-15 12:34 PM
SKM - 2015-09-15 12:23 PM Here are the main issues and questions I have 1) When the ERA was brought out back during the American, they weren't exactly upfront about it being funded by the TX taxpayers. At first it was pretty well hidden. 6 months later they finally admit this is where the funding comes from. This alone makes me question the other fine print and longevity of the association. Is it built to last? Or is it a get rich quick scheme for the CEO and a few others? Time will tell. 2) I'm all for rodeo exposure. But I do wonder what the impact might be on the tie down roping in particular when national attention is given. Tie down roping is really drawing heat from animal rights people. Will more exposure make it go the way of steer tripping? Again, time will tell. I have other questions. But those are the top two.
*Just a side note* Steer roping is alive and well, it's still at several rodeos. As many as the other events, no.....but it's got a strong following. It's just never televised and has it's own finals - doesn't mean it's extinct. :D
I know. It's only legal in, I believe it's 7 states? It might only be 5 though. Rarely is it part of the actual rodeo. It's usually held as a special event, much like a slack event. CO is one of the states it's legal in and we have a lot of trippers. I never said it was extinct. But it is rare. Even in big tripping states. And those trippers don't have the ability to make any money amount even close to all the other events.
Steer roping is not illegal anywhere. Tie down roping is the only event that there are any laws anywhere on the books against, and I believe that is only in Baltimore, MD. Cindy Schonholtz with the PRCA would be able to provide more information. |
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Location: Midwest | k.maddocks24 - 2015-09-15 2:37 PM SKM - 2015-09-15 1:43 PM MS2011 - 2015-09-15 12:34 PM SKM - 2015-09-15 12:23 PM Here are the main issues and questions I have 1) When the ERA was brought out back during the American, they weren't exactly upfront about it being funded by the TX taxpayers. At first it was pretty well hidden. 6 months later they finally admit this is where the funding comes from. This alone makes me question the other fine print and longevity of the association. Is it built to last? Or is it a get rich quick scheme for the CEO and a few others? Time will tell. 2) I'm all for rodeo exposure. But I do wonder what the impact might be on the tie down roping in particular when national attention is given. Tie down roping is really drawing heat from animal rights people. Will more exposure make it go the way of steer tripping? Again, time will tell. I have other questions. But those are the top two. *Just a side note* Steer roping is alive and well, it's still at several rodeos. As many as the other events, no.....but it's got a strong following. It's just never televised and has it's own finals - doesn't mean it's extinct. :D
I know. It's only legal in, I believe it's 7 states? It might only be 5 though. Rarely is it part of the actual rodeo. It's usually held as a special event, much like a slack event. CO is one of the states it's legal in and we have a lot of trippers. I never said it was extinct. But it is rare. Even in big tripping states. And those trippers don't have the ability to make any money amount even close to all the other events. Steer roping is not illegal anywhere. Tie down roping is the only event that there are any laws anywhere on the books against, and I believe that is only in Baltimore, MD. Cindy Schonholtz with the PRCA would be able to provide more information.
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| At the Corpus Christi rodeo they have steer tripping but it is very hush hush. No advertising and it is held at another arena in another town. Granted the CC arena is small so it would have to be held at the other arena anyway, but the only reason they have a tripping is because a big sponsor is friends with the local tripper. The ONLY reason I know about it is because my shoer is friends with a tripper. |
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Location: In my own little world | MS2011 - 2015-09-15 12:34 PM SKM - 2015-09-15 12:23 PM Here are the main issues and questions I have 1) When the ERA was brought out back during the American, they weren't exactly upfront about it being funded by the TX taxpayers. At first it was pretty well hidden. 6 months later they finally admit this is where the funding comes from. This alone makes me question the other fine print and longevity of the association. Is it built to last? Or is it a get rich quick scheme for the CEO and a few others? Time will tell. 2) I'm all for rodeo exposure. But I do wonder what the impact might be on the tie down roping in particular when national attention is given. Tie down roping is really drawing heat from animal rights people. Will more exposure make it go the way of steer tripping? Again, time will tell. I have other questions. But those are the top two. *Just a side note* Steer roping is alive and well, it's still at several rodeos. As many as the other events, no.....but it's got a strong following. It's just never televised and has it's own finals - doesn't mean it's extinct. :D
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| Oh.. my bad. The only state with an actual law on the books making it illegal is Rhode Island. It is only banned in many other states and is only done at maybe 10% of all PRCA rodeos. The reason why it's only done at 10% is because people don't want to watch it due to the high number of injuries. Talk about splitting hairs. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-09-15 2:48 PM
k.maddocks24 - 2015-09-15 2:37 PM SKM - 2015-09-15 1:43 PM MS2011 - 2015-09-15 12:34 PM SKM - 2015-09-15 12:23 PM Here are the main issues and questions I have 1) When the ERA was brought out back during the American, they weren't exactly upfront about it being funded by the TX taxpayers. At first it was pretty well hidden. 6 months later they finally admit this is where the funding comes from. This alone makes me question the other fine print and longevity of the association. Is it built to last? Or is it a get rich quick scheme for the CEO and a few others? Time will tell. 2) I'm all for rodeo exposure. But I do wonder what the impact might be on the tie down roping in particular when national attention is given. Tie down roping is really drawing heat from animal rights people. Will more exposure make it go the way of steer tripping? Again, time will tell. I have other questions. But those are the top two. *Just a side note* Steer roping is alive and well, it's still at several rodeos. As many as the other events, no.....but it's got a strong following. It's just never televised and has it's own finals - doesn't mean it's extinct. :D
I know. It's only legal in, I believe it's 7 states? It might only be 5 though. Rarely is it part of the actual rodeo. It's usually held as a special event, much like a slack event. CO is one of the states it's legal in and we have a lot of trippers. I never said it was extinct. But it is rare. Even in big tripping states. And those trippers don't have the ability to make any money amount even close to all the other events. Steer roping is not illegal anywhere. Tie down roping is the only event that there are any laws anywhere on the books against, and I believe that is only in Baltimore, MD. Cindy Schonholtz with the PRCA would be able to provide more information.
Steer tripping and steer roping are one and the same. Different names for the same event - same as bull dogging and steer wrestling.
PART of the reason why it's held at a limited number of rodeos is due to the space required. It would be impossible to have it in the small coliseum arenas, Thomas & Mack, etc. Another part of the reason for not all rodeos holding it is due to the added stock cost and added time necessary to have judges, ambulance, announcer, etc there. And yes, another factor is because of the increased scrutiny from animal rights groups. |
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| SKM - 2015-09-15 3:05 PM
Oh.. my bad. The only state with an actual law on the books making it illegal is Rhode Island. It is only banned in many other states and is only done at maybe 10% of all PRCA rodeos. The reason why it's only done at 10% is because people don't want to watch it due to the high number of injuries. Talk about splitting hairs.
Seriously...please speak with Cindy Schonholtz at the PRCA. She is the director of industry outreach for them. It's neither illegal nor banned, it's simply optional as per the PRCA rulebook for rodeo committees to include - and the animal rights activists aren't necessarily the driving force behind committees opting out of it. |
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Location: The edge of no where | k.maddocks24 - 2015-09-15 4:37 PM barrelracr131 - 2015-09-15 2:48 PM k.maddocks24 - 2015-09-15 2:37 PM SKM - 2015-09-15 1:43 PM MS2011 - 2015-09-15 12:34 PM SKM - 2015-09-15 12:23 PM Here are the main issues and questions I have 1) When the ERA was brought out back during the American, they weren't exactly upfront about it being funded by the TX taxpayers. At first it was pretty well hidden. 6 months later they finally admit this is where the funding comes from. This alone makes me question the other fine print and longevity of the association. Is it built to last? Or is it a get rich quick scheme for the CEO and a few others? Time will tell. 2) I'm all for rodeo exposure. But I do wonder what the impact might be on the tie down roping in particular when national attention is given. Tie down roping is really drawing heat from animal rights people. Will more exposure make it go the way of steer tripping? Again, time will tell. I have other questions. But those are the top two. *Just a side note* Steer roping is alive and well, it's still at several rodeos. As many as the other events, no.....but it's got a strong following. It's just never televised and has it's own finals - doesn't mean it's extinct. :D
I know. It's only legal in, I believe it's 7 states? It might only be 5 though. Rarely is it part of the actual rodeo. It's usually held as a special event, much like a slack event. CO is one of the states it's legal in and we have a lot of trippers. I never said it was extinct. But it is rare. Even in big tripping states. And those trippers don't have the ability to make any money amount even close to all the other events. Steer roping is not illegal anywhere. Tie down roping is the only event that there are any laws anywhere on the books against, and I believe that is only in Baltimore, MD. Cindy Schonholtz with the PRCA would be able to provide more information. Steer tripping and steer roping are one and the same. Different names for the same event - same as bull dogging and steer wrestling. PART of the reason why it's held at a limited number of rodeos is due to the space required. It would be impossible to have it in the small coliseum arenas, Thomas & Mack, etc. Another part of the reason for not all rodeos holding it is due to the added stock cost and added time necessary to have judges, ambulance, announcer, etc there. And yes, another factor is because of the increased scrutiny from animal rights groups.
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She's dead on guys...... just trust me on this.
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| I don't think the calf ropers want to go the way of the steer ropers....financially speaking.... I would think most calf ropers know this since some of the top CR also trip. I believe the NFR for CR and trippers will eventually end up together. The CR better appreciate the money now and not be wanting more exposure...seems like common sense to me... |
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