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Navicular..nerving... new drug??

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RunfastNTurn
Reg. Oct 2014
Posted 2015-09-22 1:35 PM
Subject: Navicular..nerving... new drug??



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 Tell me your experiences with nerving. I am considering it for my 20 year old mare. Vet also mentioned a new drug that is quite expensive, but works really well. I did not catch the name of it.. maybe some of you know of it. 
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-09-22 1:44 PM
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Maybe the vet mentioned Tildren? But it's not new. 
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RunfastNTurn
Reg. Oct 2014
Posted 2015-09-22 2:03 PM
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Nope, wasnt Tildren. It was IM injectable and cost was about $350.. I guess I will have to call him to ask what it was, I was just looking  for anyone who has acutally used it and if they had success or not. :)
 
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Jenbabe
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-09-22 2:05 PM
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I've also been hearing people talk about Osphos.

As far as nerving, I personally would not have it done without first doing an MRI. The one time I've had nerving as an option we chose to do the MRI first. After reviewing the MRI the vets took away the option of nerving because of the damage they found. My horse's navicular bone was sawing through his flexor tendon. If he had been nerved and unable to feel it, he would eventually have sawed through the tendon. I probably would have continued competing on him following the procedure as well, which would have been dangerous. My guy was retired that day.
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pippy
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Posted 2015-09-22 2:52 PM
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It was probably osphos and its a great place to start. I choose not to de-nerve, the nerves usually grow back and I didn't want to waste money. Have you had his bursa joints injected yet? Onion shoes (heel support shoes of your choice) These are all options.
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luckygirl04
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Posted 2015-09-22 3:03 PM
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OSPHOS. Works good
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RunfastNTurn
Reg. Oct 2014
Posted 2015-09-22 3:27 PM
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pippy - 2015-09-22 2:52 PM It was probably osphos and its a great place to start. I choose not to de-nerve, the nerves usually grow back and I didn't want to waste money. Have you had his bursa joints injected yet? Onion shoes (heel support shoes of your choice) These are all options.

 I think that is what it was called!!  Per xrays, vet suggested injecting would probably not do much good for very long. She was wearing an aluminum shoe with a wedge, I want to say the shoer called it a PLR shoe.  
Vet suggested  this new drug or nerving.  
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RunfastNTurn
Reg. Oct 2014
Posted 2015-09-22 3:28 PM
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luckygirl04 - 2015-09-22 3:03 PM OSPHOS. Works good

 How often to administer it? How soon did you see a difference? 
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cindyt
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-09-22 3:58 PM
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  with navicular it's a matter of how far do u want to go to help their pain... injections wear off if they even work... Nothing can reverse the damage on navicular, whirlbone, side bone... it's a personal choice but there are a lot of top horses that are nerved.
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-09-22 9:48 PM
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Jenbabe - 2015-09-21 3:05 PM

I've also been hearing people talk about Osphos.

As far as nerving, I personally would not have it done without first doing an MRI. The one time I've had nerving as an option we chose to do the MRI first. After reviewing the MRI the vets took away the option of nerving because of the damage they found. My horse's navicular bone was sawing through his flexor tendon. If he had been nerved and unable to feel it, he would eventually have sawed through the tendon. I probably would have continued competing on him following the procedure as well, which would have been dangerous. My guy was retired that day.

Agree
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Jenbabe
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Posted 2015-09-23 7:05 AM
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cindyt - 2015-09-22 3:58 PM

  with navicular it's a matter of how far do u want to go to help their pain... injections wear off if they even work... Nothing can reverse the damage on navicular, whirlbone, side bone... it's a personal choice but there are a lot of top horses that are nerved.

I agree. You can wrap up a lot of money in pain management. And in certain situations it is definitely worth it. Honestly, if your mare were younger I might be more inclined to try some of these therapies. But she is 20 years old and her years of being able to compete and be ridden are getting to be fewer. You would be money and time ahead to retire her, even if just to light riding, and invest the money you'd be spending in vet and farrier in another horse.
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ampratt
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2015-09-23 7:17 AM
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He is probably talking about Osphos. I have done both the Tildren and the Osphos with remarkable results. My guy had navicular bone issues. 5 years ago we started off with injecting the coffin bone and it didn't last so I went straight to Tildren, he went from a 4 on the lameness scale to a 0. When Osphos came out, I switched to it because it's just easier on the horse in my opinion. 3 IM injections. I do mine every 6 months. I have had no issues and my guy is still running sound. I pay 300.00 for the 3 shots. If your horse is sound and otherwise healthy and running and you want to continue running her I wouldn't let her being 20 stop me from doing the treatments. It would be 600.00 a year and in MY opinion that's pretty cheap to keep your partner running if that's what you want.
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