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New to horses
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2015-09-17 1:04 PM
Subject: Buying / selling


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Opinions.....if you bought a horse from someone who was honest, told you they bought the horse a month ago to resell & they had done a vet check on the horse when they bought & it passed. You ride the horse 2x at their place & decide to buy. The seller gives you a week to ride & vet check & then the horse is yours. They give you the X-rays from their vet check but you don't do your own vet check. 3 months later the horse is sound but won't lope a circle without cross firing after going to 3 vets you find the horse has an old torn suspensory. Would you hold the seller responsible?
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kboltwkreations
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2015-09-17 1:06 PM
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Always vet check. Alot can go wrong in 3 months with any horse.
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clover girl
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-09-17 1:08 PM
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NO!  Its been 3 months, its on the new owner.  The seller was MORE than reasonable. 
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lhighquality
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2015-09-17 1:09 PM
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Nope, there was every opportunity given to check said horse out!!!
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-09-17 1:09 PM
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Suspensory won't show on X-ray.  They might not have known. If you pass on a vet check and own a horse three months before it goes lame you have no recourse. 
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-09-17 1:09 PM
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I personally would not hold the seller responsible. Sounds like it's an injury that Seller didn't know about. BUT even if the seller did know, the buyer has the burden of doing their due diligence and having an independant vet check done. UNLESS you can PROVE the seller knew and did not disclose the information. 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-09-17 1:13 PM
Subject: RE: Buying / selling


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So was the horse cross firing at your time of purchase or only after you had it 3 months? 
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Pocob
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-09-17 1:15 PM
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Horses are a perishable item, like eggs. You check your eggs in the store - drop them in the parking lot - they are your yolks.

I always encourage buyers to have a soundness (pre-purchase) exam performed. It is for the Buyer's peace of mind.
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star1218
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-09-17 1:19 PM
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New to horses - 2015-09-17 1:04 PM Opinions.....if you bought a horse from someone who was honest, told you they bought the horse a month ago to resell & they had done a vet check on the horse when they bought & it passed. You ride the horse 2x at their place & decide to buy. The seller gives you a week to ride & vet check & then the horse is yours. They give you the X-rays from their vet check but you don't do your own vet check. 3 months later the horse is sound but won't lope a circle without cross firing after going to 3 vets you find the horse has an old torn suspensory. Would you hold the seller responsible?

 That's a big fat no.  Even if you bought the horse yesterday I'd say No. The sellers sound reasonable and gave you every chance to have your own vet check done.
Like others have said, they had the horse a short time and may not have known about the injury either.
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angelica
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2015-09-17 1:22 PM
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Always vet check a performance horse! I learned that the hard way in 2013! The woman I purchased the horse from showed me X-rays and went on and on about how great the horse rides and that she has never taken a lame step in her life etc......Whatever she was drugged with wore off about 48 hours after I purchased her! I knew I had been taken! I called and she would't even answer the phone. I found her on facebook and was blocked!  I will also never purchase a barrel horse that is already running!!
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RunNitroRun
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2015-09-17 1:30 PM
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A torn suspensory wouldn't show up on a radiograph and most people don't ultrasound during a pre-purchase so no the person should not, and cannot, hold the seller responsible.

The seller had the horse a month and may not have put enough "work" on the horse to aggravate an old injury and the buyer was offered everything possible to clear the horse.

Since the issue didn't come up until three months the injury/or aggravation of the injury occurred after the purchase.

The seller sounds like an honest seller so I'd be thankful they were honest and start rehab on the horse.

A torn suspensory isn't always the end of the career so if I was the buyer I'd start looking into treatment options and get the horse back as healthy as I can.

Best of luck
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-09-17 2:14 PM
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Absolutely not. Suspensories are hard and tricky to find and can hide for months and months.. horses can be pretty sound with some issues going on there that just don't hurt bad enough yet.

OR, the horse could have torn it a long time ago, healed, and re injured it. If it was healed at the time of purchase and the seller was never aware of it, they truly did not know it existed.


And the fact that the purchaser chose not to do a PPE... thats on the purchaser. Also, suspensory problems wouldn't have been found on a radiograph unless it had mineralization which is rare.


It sounds like to me, the seller gave the buyer more information than a lot would have, and the buyer chose not to do any further action and bought the horse. They were given a full week to get a PPE, a lot of sellers give you 24-48 hours.


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Cindy Hamilton
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-09-17 3:16 PM
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 Get some Runner's Relief and treat him...Old injuries respond real well to this.
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-09-17 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: Buying / selling



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Good grief....they gave you the x-rays they had and gave you a freakin week to make up your mind and have him vet checked again if you like. That is far more than fair. I don't see how any reasonable person could hold the seller responsible. Suspensory injuries are tricky and it wouldn't have shown up on an x-ray.
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New to horses
Reg. Sep 2015
Posted 2015-09-17 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: Buying / selling


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In response to barrelracr131 ? About cross firing.......maybe some but got worse. Since the purchase horse has been to 3 different vets (within last month) all with different diagnosis ranging from SI injected, coffins injected & 3rd vet says torn suspensory. Horse isn't lame not even when flexed just doesn't lope a circle without cross firing.

Edited by New to horses 2015-09-17 6:14 PM
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Aqhaczy
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-09-17 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: Buying / selling


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 sorry your lost-  use the experience to always do a pre-purchase exam, your sign on name says it all. 
But I'm am sorry it has happened to you... I think more than one of us has been there, I have.

 

Edited by Aqhaczy 2015-09-17 6:17 PM
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07milch
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2015-09-17 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: Buying / selling


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New to horses - 2015-09-17 3:48 PM

In response to barrelracr131 ? About cross firing.......maybe some but got worse. Since the purchase horse has been to 3 different vets (within last month) all with different diagnosis ranging from SI injected, coffins injected & 3rd vet says torn suspensory. Horse isn't lame not even when flexed just doesn't lope a circle without cross firing.

If I had three different vets come up with three different injuries and my horse wasn't lame I would be taking a real serious look at what chiropractic issues the horse may have. I really recommend finding out who the best chiro is in your area and having them work on the horse.
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della
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-09-19 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: Buying / selling



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07milch - 2015-09-17 6:23 PM

New to horses - 2015-09-17 3:48 PM

In response to barrelracr131 ? About cross firing.......maybe some but got worse. Since the purchase horse has been to 3 different vets (within last month) all with different diagnosis ranging from SI injected, coffins injected & 3rd vet says torn suspensory. Horse isn't lame not even when flexed just doesn't lope a circle without cross firing.

If I had three different vets come up with three different injuries and my horse wasn't lame I would be taking a real serious look at what chiropractic issues the horse may have. I really recommend finding out who the best chiro is in your area and having them work on the horse.

My 5 year old sage does this, Im still trying to figure out WHY
But she goes out in her back and hips, once shes worked on shes fine, good as new, she went for 5 or so months this last time and started doing it again. I got her worked on and she fine, but I decided to turn her out until I can figure out what the heck is going on. It dose not make sence and there has to be a reason for this, me my vet cant find it.
I think a lot of it has to do with some pour decisions I made on who got to rider her and where her 3 year old year. I hope I can get it all sorted out, I love her a ton and dream of acatualy getting to run her.

Any way good luck to you and for sure tey a good body worker!
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