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| Running Roan - 2015-09-18 11:47 AM A ground sterilant is the secret to clean fence lines with bare dirt underneath. Glyphosate (roundup) is works great and is easy to use, but it just kills the vegetation that's already there. A ground sterilant will kill what's there and keep new vegetation from growing sometimes for up to a year. There's lots of different kinds available, even Ortho labeled ones that you can buy anywhere. In my experience, if you've got A LOT of weeds, it's more effective to knock them down with glyphosate first, then follow up later after the vegetation is gone with a ground sterilant (it works better/longer if you can apply it directly on the ground). After that, just keep an eye on it and apply the sterilant again when you see new growth (don't let it get out of hand). By using a ground sterilant on your fence lines, you'll be spending a lot less time spraying every year than if you use glyphosate.
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Location: USA | Running Roan - 2015-09-18 12:47 PM
A ground sterilant is the secret to clean fence lines with bare dirt underneath. Glyphosate (roundup) is works great and is easy to use, but it just kills the vegetation that's already there. A ground sterilant will kill what's there and keep new vegetation from growing sometimes for up to a year. There's lots of different kinds available, even Ortho labeled ones that you can buy anywhere. In my experience, if you've got A LOT of weeds, it's more effective to knock them down with glyphosate first, then follow up later after the vegetation is gone with a ground sterilant (it works better/longer if you can apply it directly on the ground). After that, just keep an eye on it and apply the sterilant again when you see new growth (don't let it get out of hand). By using a ground sterilant on your fence lines, you'll be spending a lot less time spraying every year than if you use glyphosate.
I use Sureguard and Round up mixed together. Sureguard is a sterilant that a lot of landscapers use and you can get it at some agri supply places. The lable say to mix with Glyphosate for better results. I used it in the arena and it lasted almost 4 years. I just started using it on some of the fencelines. I plan to order more Sureguard for next year. |
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Location: Stephenville, TX | Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-18 12:01 PM Running Roan - 2015-09-18 11:54 AM arion - 2015-09-17 10:54 AM The active ingredient in Roundup is Glysophate. You can buy 41% Glysophate at just about any Feed store Tractor supply type store around without an applicator license. mix it a bit stronger(not much) than recommended and go to town. *Glyphosate...gly-fo-sate
Not gly-so-fate
LOL! I was trying to help out the OP too, because if she goes into a store looking for "glysophate", she's gonna be real disappointed.
I worked at a farm store about the time Monsanto's patent expired and people had the option to buy something other than name brand Roundup and it got pronounced all kinds of wrong. They'd get upset when we sold them glyphosate when they clearly asked for "glysophate". 
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Location: Stephenville, TX | canrunnr - 2015-09-18 1:17 PM Running Roan - 2015-09-18 12:47 PM A ground sterilant is the secret to clean fence lines with bare dirt underneath. Glyphosate (roundup) is works great and is easy to use, but it just kills the vegetation that's already there. A ground sterilant will kill what's there and keep new vegetation from growing sometimes for up to a year. There's lots of different kinds available, even Ortho labeled ones that you can buy anywhere. In my experience, if you've got A LOT of weeds, it's more effective to knock them down with glyphosate first, then follow up later after the vegetation is gone with a ground sterilant (it works better/longer if you can apply it directly on the ground). After that, just keep an eye on it and apply the sterilant again when you see new growth (don't let it get out of hand). By using a ground sterilant on your fence lines, you'll be spending a lot less time spraying every year than if you use glyphosate. I use Sureguard and Round up mixed together. Sureguard is a sterilant that a lot of landscapers use and you can get it at some agri supply places. The lable say to mix with Glyphosate for better results. I used it in the arena and it lasted almost 4 years. I just started using it on some of the fencelines. I plan to order more Sureguard for next year.
Yep, you can mix a ground sterilant with a little glyphosate if you've got weeds to knock down. Ground sterilant does a decent job of killing good sized vegetation by itself, but glyphosate works a little faster for that.
That ground sterilant is good for gravel areas, dry lots (to keep those ugly weeds from growing that the horses won't eat). Anyplace you want bare ground. It's a big time saver over spraying with glyphosate all the time if you live in a jungle-prone climate like I do LOL!
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-17 12:22 PM
arion - 2015-09-17 11:53 AM Glysophate is a broad spectrum herbicide not a pesticide.
 Are you really that dumb or are you testing me?  Since, you know, herbicides ARE pesticides. Â
Yes those dang weeds are pests. Perhaps he is confused with insecticides. They are not very effective on weeds. |
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Location: Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-17 10:31 AM Barnmom - 2015-09-17 10:26 AM I use Roundup and 2,4-d since the Roundup won't kill the chicken trees. That's a great mix because the 2,4d is stronger on broadleaf weeds. Just don't let it drift on your trees.
Will this kill mesquite trees?
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | RocketPilot - 2015-09-19 11:12 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-17 10:31 AM Barnmom - 2015-09-17 10:26 AM I use Roundup and 2,4-d since the Roundup won't kill the chicken trees. That's a great mix because the 2,4d is stronger on broadleaf weeds. Just don't let it drift on your trees.
I don't know anything about mesquite. But 2,4-d is a defoliant on broadleaf trees. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | RocketPilot - 2015-09-19 11:12 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-17 10:31 AM Barnmom - 2015-09-17 10:26 AM I use Roundup and 2,4-d since the Roundup won't kill the chicken trees. That's a great mix because the 2,4d is stronger on broadleaf weeds. Just don't let it drift on your trees.
RP, Try 1 Part Remedy and 3 parts diesel. When diesel was higher we were using Reclaim and Remedy together. But now that the prices are adjusted I think this is the cheaper option.
Also, where you usually have Mesquite there are cactus and this is our mix: 8oz of Remedy to 1 Gal of diesel. |
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Location: Stephenville, TX | RocketPilot - 2015-09-19 11:12 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-17 10:31 AM Barnmom - 2015-09-17 10:26 AM I use Roundup and 2,4-d since the Roundup won't kill the chicken trees. That's a great mix because the 2,4d is stronger on broadleaf weeds. Just don't let it drift on your trees.
You can kill smaller bushy mesquite with 2,4-D. When they get bigger and woodier you have to soak the trunk with Remedy/surfactant to kill it. Mesquite doesn't have a lot of leaf compared to other trees, so sometimes broadleaf sprays don't do much besides make the mesquite mad |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Question for all you smart agriculture people...Is Roundup the best thing to use on Bull Nettle that is splattered over my yard here and there? |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Nevertooold - 2015-09-19 3:13 PM Question for all you smart agriculture people...Is Roundup the best thing to use on Bull Nettle that is splattered over my yard here and there?
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Location: Here | uno-dos-tres! - 2015-09-19 12:29 PM RocketPilot - 2015-09-19 11:12 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-17 10:31 AM Barnmom - 2015-09-17 10:26 AM I use Roundup and 2,4-d since the Roundup won't kill the chicken trees. That's a great mix because the 2,4d is stronger on broadleaf weeds. Just don't let it drift on your trees.
Also, where you usually have Mesquite there are cactus and this is our mix: 8oz of Remedy to 1 Gal of diesel.
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Location: Texas | I am going to give that a try. Thanks. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | uno-dos-tres! - 2015-09-19 3:36 PM Nevertooold - 2015-09-19 3:13 PM Question for all you smart agriculture people...Is Roundup the best thing to use on Bull Nettle that is splattered over my yard here and there? Grazon
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | uno-dos-tres! - 2015-09-19 12:29 PM
RocketPilot - 2015-09-19 11:12 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-09-17 10:31 AM Barnmom - 2015-09-17 10:26 AM I use Roundup and 2,4-d since the Roundup won't kill the chicken trees.  That's a great mix because the 2,4d is stronger on broadleaf weeds.  Just don't let it drift on your trees.Â
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 Also, where you usually have Mesquite there are cactus and this is our mix: 8oz of Remedy to 1 Gal of diesel. Â
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Location: West Texas | What is a good ground sterilizer product and can you buy it over the counter at TSC, etc.?
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Location: Big Blue Skies | Can you get 2-4 d at tractor supply ? |
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Location: West Texas | Yes, they have a brand called pasture pro that does not have any grazing restrictions. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Tdove - 2015-09-22 10:03 AM What is a good ground sterilizer product and can you buy it over the counter at TSC, etc.? Thanks
I came up with Pramitol on a google search. I don't use OTC pesticides, so no personal experience. |
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