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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-09-23 10:21 AM
I've been thinking about this lately. I was trained to use a reasonably snug back cinch my whole life. But I was watching the last season of Racer's Edge a few weeks ago, and I noticed a LOT of girls weren't using back cinches. So I started watching how much their saddles moved when they were turning and such. On ALL horses the saddles lifted a couple inches when going around barrels. Regardless of whether or not they had a back cinch. I really don't like back cinches because they get in the way of my leg aids and have contemplated taking mine off for good. IMO unless you're roping steers or something, having a back cinch won't do any harm but definitely is not a necessity.
I've gotten my spur caught in the buckle before, that's not fun. I do not use one on my main horse because she got grumpy when you tightened it up. This horse would like to run with no cinch if she could lol |
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Location: Paradise , tx | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-09-23 12:21 PM I've been thinking about this lately. I was trained to use a reasonably snug back cinch my whole life. But I was watching the last season of Racer's Edge a few weeks ago, and I noticed a LOT of girls weren't using back cinches. So I started watching how much their saddles moved when they were turning and such. On ALL horses the saddles lifted a couple inches when going around barrels. Regardless of whether or not they had a back cinch. I really don't like back cinches because they get in the way of my leg aids and have contemplated taking mine off for good. IMO unless you're roping steers or something, having a back cinch won't do any harm but definitely is not a necessity. I agree with you, my husband and I have watch many runs and we noticed the same thing, all the saddles, with or without back girths, popped up in back. as they turned the barrels. I also agree that girths get in the way of your leg aids. But things tend to go in cycles, just like tie-downs did for awhile, Some said always use tie downs, some said never. Also like all the different opions of tree less saddles, which I have rode in for about 20 years I love them- some love them, some hate them. All boils down what works for you.
Edited by Tailwind 2015-09-24 9:31 PM
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Location: Phoenix | The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. |
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Location: MD | hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM
The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought.
I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens. |
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Location: Phoenix | WrapSnap - 2015-09-24 7:03 PM hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens.
Yes but there are MANY who don't ride as well as you Wrap! :) |
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | I've never ridden with one but my Meleta has one. I had a heck of a time this summer trying to get used it. I use a lot of leg, coming from a reining background and it gets in the way too much for me. I won't take it off but if I ordered a new saddle, I probably wouldnt have one. |
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Location: North Dakota | Also, how tight is tight for you guys? Cause if it's tight enough to take any pressure off the front of the saddle, it seems like that would interfere with their breathing. My horse's tummy expands and contracts a lot when he's breathing hard. |
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Location: MD | WrapSnap - 2015-09-24 9:03 PM hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens.
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Location: between here and there | Everyone can do whatever they feel is right. Whatever works for you is fine and you don't need to explain it to anyone. For the one wanting to know how snug, I can still easily run my fingers under mine on the front and the back. I just don't want to see it hanging down.
It isn't your butt that keeps a saddle down tho either. It's the dynamics of your horse moving. When you turn even a short distance the saddle will turn the opposite direction putting more pressure on the front cinch. |
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Location: MD | CE's wrapn3 - 2015-09-25 7:09 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-09-24 9:03 PM hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens.
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| hammer_time - 2015-09-24 9:06 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-09-24 7:03 PM hammer_time - 2015-09-24 8:23 PM The thing with the back of the saddle popping up is related to how good the rider is and if the rider is going to be slamming their weight back into the saddle. I have always used a back cinch and I have never really experienced a problem with sore backs. Food for thought. I can guarantee you that my hiney stays pretty solidly in the tack. No catching air and slamming down on a horse's back here. I do have a few that are so worky that their back become contorted to the point that there simply isn't as much back for that saddle to sit on as when they are on the straights and you will see the back of my saddle rise as the turn happens.
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