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Location: Michigan | I have never been a huge fan of the neoprene sports boots, I do not think they provide much in the way of actual impact protection and how can a thin layer of neoprene offer any actual support. It was Ed Wright that got me thinking this way many years ago at a clinic and I ran leather splint boots front and rear most of the time since.
My daughter is a big fan of the iconoclast boots and I do like them better than most except it seems that their lifespan is only about a season of hard work before they start falling apart.
While searching online I see all sorts of nice looking eventer/jumper boots. They look to be a hard clam shell with an open front and I can see where a well fitting set of these could actually give support and excellent impact protection.
Question is why do we not see this style of boot in barrel racing? Is there some downside I am missing?
I did get a pair of the RES boots that look like a pair of normal neo boots but have a more rigid back and sides and I kind of like these so far.
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| I love my Veredus eventing boots. Never going back to under sophisticated neoprene "support" boots.
My Veredus boots take a beating, incredible slices and cuts on them. They live a really long time and don't come off. They don't get heavy.
They're expensive but they're worth every penny to me. |
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| I have wondered the same thing about eventer boots. . . I have several issues with some of the neopreme boots myself so I am trying Flow Boots. |
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Location: Midwest | Open front boots won't protect the patterns and fetlocks on a horse that sits hard or gets low.
I have a set of open front boots, but I don't use them to run barrels. |
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| rcoe - 2016-04-27 3:48 PM
I have never been a huge fan of the neoprene sports boots, I do not think they provide much in the way of actual impact protection and how can a thin layer of neoprene offer any actual support. It was Ed Wright that got me thinking this way many years ago at a clinic and I ran leather splint boots front and rear most of the time since.
My daughter is a big fan of the iconoclast boots and I do like them better than most except it seems that their lifespan is only about a season of hard work before they start falling apart.
While searching online I see all sorts of nice looking eventer/jumper boots. They look to be a hard clam shell with an open front and I can see where a well fitting set of these could actually give support and excellent impact protection.
Question is why do we not see this style of boot in barrel racing? Is there some downside I am missing?
I did get a pair of the RES boots that look like a pair of normal neo boots but have a more rigid back and sides and I kind of like these so far.
I was a 110% classic user, until I helped Molli at BBR and saw the RES guardian boots. They are awesome. |
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Location: Michigan | kylart - 2016-04-27 8:11 PM
rcoe - 2016-04-27 3:48 PM
I have never been a huge fan of the neoprene sports boots, I do not think they provide much in the way of actual impact protection and how can a thin layer of neoprene offer any actual support. It was Ed Wright that got me thinking this way many years ago at a clinic and I ran leather splint boots front and rear most of the time since.
My daughter is a big fan of the iconoclast boots and I do like them better than most except it seems that their lifespan is only about a season of hard work before they start falling apart.
While searching online I see all sorts of nice looking eventer/jumper boots. They look to be a hard clam shell with an open front and I can see where a well fitting set of these could actually give support and excellent impact protection.
Question is why do we not see this style of boot in barrel racing? Is there some downside I am missing?
I did get a pair of the RES boots that look like a pair of normal neo boots but have a more rigid back and sides and I kind of like these so far.
I was a 110% classic user, until I helped Molli at BBR and saw the RES guardian boots. They are awesome.
Yes those are the RES boots my daughter is using. Our season just started so only a couple runs on them but so far liking the design and fit of these boots.
One of the reasons I have stuck with my leather splints on the front of my mare is the strikes and slices I notice on the hard leather inner guard. These impact would have to be felt on the inside of the leather through simple neo boots.
Edited by rcoe 2016-04-27 8:19 PM
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Location: TEXAS | I love my flow boots!!  |
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| you are comparing apples to oranges.
SMB's, whether they are PC, Classic, Iconoclast, etc. were originally designed solely to support the suspensory ligament and reduce the chance of hyperextension. These boots work well for this purpose. They also state that they will protect the leg...but that's just an after claim, they were all tested by vets for "support" only and there are other options that do much better in the protection dept.
The leather protection boots/eventing boots, etc. were designed to *protect* the legs from obstacles or from the horse overreaching with the hind legs coming down off a jump and injuring the backs of the front tendons. They do this well, but do not offer any suspensory support.
Polo Wraps were designed to prevent or reduce the risk of the splint bones popping out from the cannon bones when the horse puts extreme pressure on the legs when turning. They only offer about 5% of "support" for the tendons and lower structures but hold the splint bones better than the other two options. (I know no one asked or said anything about this one, but I know a lot of people use them.) |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | IMO and experience polos or boots (any kind/brand) offer decent protection from outside concussion and that is about it. |
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Location: In my own world | rcoe - 2016-04-27 3:48 PM
I have never been a huge fan of the neoprene sports boots, I do not think they provide much in the way of actual impact protection and how can a thin layer of neoprene offer any actual support. It was Ed Wright that got me thinking this way many years ago at a clinic and I ran leather splint boots front and rear most of the time since.
My daughter is a big fan of the iconoclast boots and I do like them better than most except it seems that their lifespan is only about a season of hard work before they start falling apart.
While searching online I see all sorts of nice looking eventer/jumper boots. They look to be a hard clam shell with an open front and I can see where a well fitting set of these could actually give support and excellent impact protection.
Question is why do we not see this style of boot in barrel racing? Is there some downside I am missing?
I did get a pair of the RES boots that look like a pair of normal neo boots but have a more rigid back and sides and I kind of like these so far.
I personally think the reason you don't see or hear much about stuff in that English world is that the western/English riding worlds don't mix much! Cause neither side likes to mix with the other! My chiro rides hunters and we laugh all the time at the differences between our worlds. And you think $300 for a magnetic/copper/or ceramic whatever blanket is expensive....let me tell you she has showed me stuff in the $1000s of dollar range. She has no clue about the brands of things we use. And she thinks it's awful we don't use mounting blocks because it's bad for the horses back not to and doesn't understand why we don't help each other more. She says I need to come to her side. Lol |
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| SC Wrangler - 2016-04-29 10:08 PM
IMO and experience polos or boots (any kind/brand) offer decent protection from outside concussion and that is about it.
^^This^^
And about the only reason I use them. At home, if I happen to be taking a horse through a set of cans, I rarely put them on. I want their legs as strong as possible without any support. Any leg issues I have had have come out of the pasture rather than the arena other than over reaching. |
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Gettin Jiggy Wit It
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| I use cross country boots. If you have ever watched cross country and saw the courses they jump over and the surfaces they ride over, I think its as bad or even worse then barrel racing! They do not use boots for ligament or tendon "support" like we do SMBs in barrel racing. Its all for impact. I dont like the thought of neoprene or anything restricting the joint.. Honestly when I wear a brace and use the joint a lot it is actually fatiguing to my joint because it is so constricting. I think boots are more for impact protection more then anything...
Edited by WetSaddleBlankets 2016-05-02 3:38 AM
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Location: mi | livinonlove&horses - 2016-04-30 8:52 PM rcoe - 2016-04-27 3:48 PM I have never been a huge fan of the neoprene sports boots, I do not think they provide much in the way of actual impact protection and how can a thin layer of neoprene offer any actual support. It was Ed Wright that got me thinking this way many years ago at a clinic and I ran leather splint boots front and rear most of the time since. My daughter is a big fan of the iconoclast boots and I do like them better than most except it seems that their lifespan is only about a season of hard work before they start falling apart. While searching online I see all sorts of nice looking eventer/jumper boots. They look to be a hard clam shell with an open front and I can see where a well fitting set of these could actually give support and excellent impact protection. Question is why do we not see this style of boot in barrel racing? Is there some downside I am missing? I did get a pair of the RES boots that look like a pair of normal neo boots but have a more rigid back and sides and I kind of like these so far. I personally think the reason you don't see or hear much about stuff in that English world is that the western/English riding worlds don't mix much! Cause neither side likes to mix with the other! My chiro rides hunters and we laugh all the time at the differences between our worlds. And you think $300 for a magnetic/copper/or ceramic whatever blanket is expensive....let me tell you she has showed me stuff in the $1000s of dollar range. She has no clue about the brands of things we use. And she thinks it's awful we don't use mounting blocks because it's bad for the horses back not to and doesn't understand why we don't help each other more. She says I need to come to her side. Lol
I use a mounting block 95% of the time. No reason not too. The only time I don't use one is if there is just not one anywhere around. I have 2 at home and haul one with me. Works great for helping to hop in the bed of the truck to hook and unhook the trailer and then it is there handy for mounting up. |
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| ajs2002 - 2016-05-02 7:27 AM
livinonlove&horses - 2016-04-30 8:52 PM rcoe - 2016-04-27 3:48 PM I have never been a huge fan of the neoprene sports boots, I do not think they provide much in the way of actual impact protection and how can a thin layer of neoprene offer any actual support. It was Ed Wright that got me thinking this way many years ago at a clinic and I ran leather splint boots front and rear most of the time since. My daughter is a big fan of the iconoclast boots and I do like them better than most except it seems that their lifespan is only about a season of hard work before they start falling apart. While searching online I see all sorts of nice looking eventer/jumper boots. They look to be a hard clam shell with an open front and I can see where a well fitting set of these could actually give support and excellent impact protection. Question is why do we not see this style of boot in barrel racing? Is there some downside I am missing? I did get a pair of the RES boots that look like a pair of normal neo boots but have a more rigid back and sides and I kind of like these so far. I personally think the reason you don't see or hear much about stuff in that English world is that the western/English riding worlds don't mix much! Cause neither side likes to mix with the other! My chiro rides hunters and we laugh all the time at the differences between our worlds. And you think $300 for a magnetic/copper/or ceramic whatever blanket is expensive....let me tell you she has showed me stuff in the $1000s of dollar range. She has no clue about the brands of things we use. And she thinks it's awful we don't use mounting blocks because it's bad for the horses back not to and doesn't understand why we don't help each other more. She says I need to come to her side. Lol
Lord help me! I just spent like 5 minutes trying to figure out what a mounting block was! LOL 
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I use the hunter jumper style open front boots for turn out on my gelding that toes out because he interfers with himself. On that same note I use Classic Equine leather splint boots on him also, they have a molded protection piece over the sesmoid area also which is the spot he hits. I have been looking at the flow boots but haven't hit the "buy now" button yet. I also use the Ed Wright combo back boots on him. |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | We use Majyk Equipe on everyone here. Love all their boots. |
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