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Location: U.S. | My gelding had all your symptoms, after spending over 3k in trying to figure out what it was it ended up being EPM. We treated him for 3 mo and now he is sound and like a different horse. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Pull .the shoes.. ya I know just shod. Add Vitamin E to feed use Pure E. Mix green Alcohol, apple cider Vinegar, witch hazel. all 16 oz. one cup of abzorbine in 5 gal bucket with warm water do a full body wash . bute for3 days then leave be and see what you have. After the initial soreness is gone then the real culprit will show up so you can pin point it better. |
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| If your vet couldn't figure that out I'd get a new vet- sounds like classic navicular- MRI could confirm- |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | trickster j - 2015-09-29 5:50 PMIf your vet couldn't figure that out I'd get a new vet- sounds like classic navicular- MRI could confirm- Besides the pointing which of the symptoms the OP gave would lead you go believe navicular? And doesn't an X-ray usually show navicular damage? What would an MRI tell you about navicular bone damage that an X-ray would not?
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| willrodeo4food - 2015-09-30 4:37 PM trickster j - 2015-09-29 5:50 PMIf your vet couldn't figure that out I'd get a new vet- sounds like classic navicular- MRI could confirm- Besides the pointing which of the symptoms the OP gave would lead you go believe navicular? And doesn't an X-ray usually show navicular damage? What would an MRI tell you about navicular bone damage that an X-ray would not?
eta: "Navicular" is just a word for heel pain these days. With MRI now we know the pain can be caused by other things besides changes in the navicular bone.
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| I would have live blood analysis done... In my experience they've found a complete train wreck (caused by poor nutrition) where a vet's blood test came back clear. It's usually about $100, and in my case saved thousands in veterinary diagnostics. |
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| trickster j - 2015-09-30 10:48 PM
willrodeo4food - 2015-09-30 4:37 PM trickster j - 2015-09-29 5:50 PMIf your vet couldn't figure that out I'd get a new vet- sounds like classic navicular- MRI could confirm- Besides the pointing which of the symptoms the OP gave would lead you go believe navicular? And doesn't an X-ray usually show navicular damage? What would an MRI tell you about navicular bone damage that an X-ray would not?
eta: "Navicular" is just a word for heel pain these days. With MRI now we know the pain can be caused by other things besides changes in the navicular bone.
Treatment for this or are they done? You treat it like a strain?
We have a client that sounds like her mare to a T. But she refuses to spend more money on vet bills at the moment. |
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| astreakinchic - 2015-10-01 4:39 AM trickster j - 2015-09-30 10:48 PM willrodeo4food - 2015-09-30 4:37 PM trickster j - 2015-09-29 5:50 PMIf your vet couldn't figure that out I'd get a new vet- sounds like classic navicular- MRI could confirm- Besides the pointing which of the symptoms the OP gave would lead you go believe navicular? And doesn't an X-ray usually show navicular damage? What would an MRI tell you about navicular bone damage that an X-ray would not?
eta: "Navicular" is just a word for heel pain these days. With MRI now we know the pain can be caused by other things besides changes in the navicular bone. Treatment for this or are they done? You treat it like a strain? We have a client that sounds like her mare to a T. But she refuses to spend more money on vet bills at the moment.
It could be a strain or a tear- corrective shoeing is critical, I tried Tildren with marginal success... it's a hard one to overcome- |
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Location: MN | I had a horse that was acting sore!! Not lame though. Symptoms started after he pulled back on the crossties and went down on his butt. Shortly after he was throwing his head back at me when I saddled him, went down when I girthed him, WILD at the gate. I was CONVINCED it was ulcers and was very bummed when he scoped clean because I had NO answers! I tested him for EPM, NEGATIVE! I went through 10 saddles to find the right fit as he is a stocky quarter horse, different pads, different girths, people told me nothing is wrong, just get after him, and finally a friend told me about back injections. Long story short, my horse had his back injected in 8 areas, 4 on each side of the spine. After a week off, I had in my hands a completely different horse. Stands quietly while being saddled and girthed, no pinning his ears or biting, and he is running around in the morning winnying again when he sees me come.. Not crazy at the gate (hes always been a little hot) Seriously something to check into, and while this was happening, he was always out in his hip from overcompensating for the pain! Oh, and while he was sore he wouldn't let me pick up his back feet well because of all the pressure of the back pain. The vet/chiro said the back needs to be injected more times that you would think from bad saddles, bad riders, hard turning horses, when a horse is a puller, or rolls wrong. Just because he has ulcer symptoms, trust me first hand, save the money get him scoped before you start treatment, these injections gave me my horse back.
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Location: the end of the rainbow | The other suggestion a vet that does a lot of chiro and acupuncture made regarding my well muscled mare that was body sore was a magnesium deficiency. A table spoon of Epsom salt a day made a huge difference for her while I was waiting to get her in and have her underlying joint soreness issues addressed.
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