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| Does anyone feed LMF Feeds? These are the specs on the NW formula:
Northwest Specs
Typical Analysis
Crude Protein, min14.0%
Crude fat, min4.0%
Crude Fiber, max18.0%
Calcium, min0.6%
Calcium, max0.9%
Phosphorous, min0.4%
Copper, min30 ppm
Zinc., min80 ppm
Selenium, min0.30 ppm
Vitamin A, min2000 IU/lb
Vitamin E, min40 IU/lb
Glucosamine HCL, min660 mg/lb
Ingredients
Sun Cured Alfalfa Meal, Oats, Corn, Soybean Meal, Dried Beet Pulp, Ground Grass Hay, Cane Molasses, Vegetable Oil, Monocalcium Phosphate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Salt, Monosodium Phosphate, Live Yeast Culture, L-Lysine, Selenium Yeast, Manganese Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin A Acetate (Stability Improved), dl-Alpha Tocopherol (Source of Vitamin E), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Artificial Flavor, Choline Chloride, Copper Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Niacin, Folic Acid, Calcium Pantothenate, Glucosamine HCl, d- Biotin, Thiamine Mono Nitrate, Riboflavin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate, Potassium Iodide. Contains glucosamine HCl as a cartilage building block.
Special Ingredients
Bio-Plex®
Proteinated minerals for maximum absorption and retention. Minerals designed to match as closely as possible the naturally-complexed trace element compounds found in forages and grains.
Sel-Plex®
Selenium is more bio-available than inorganic forms and better retained, which lets the horse build nutrient reserves against periods of increased demand with less risk of toxicity. Better tissue retention, optimized immune response.
Yea-Sacc1026
The world’s leading yeast culture for horses, and enhances fiber digestion and nutrient absorption allowing for increased animal performance. By improving feed efficiency, Yea-Sacc1026 also helps to maintain body and coat condition in horses.
Horses in training, working horses: Less variation in intake, improved nutrient absorption including phosphorus for bone strength. Senior horses: Improves fiber, protein and mineral digestion.
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Location: Arkansas | I am just now reading this. Can someone send a link to the other threads? I want to be more informed. | |
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Location: OH. IO | I just want to bump this up incase someone missed it or is looking for info. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | A gentle reminder....It's getting to be that time of year again. Please be mindful of any abnormal behavior in your horses. It's interesting looking back at past posts and how far we've come through all of this. My horses are no longer on concentrated feeds and they look better than they ever have. Our nightmare has not been resolved, but it will not be forgotten any time soon. The expenses continue and I won't be backing off anytime soon.
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-04-21 4:20 PM
GLP - 2015-04-21 3:13 PM Zebra racer - 2015-04-21 11:16 AM Have you thought that their could be grazing toxins problems since horses graze far more than they should eat grain? It might be chemicals for weed control or general toxicity from fertilizer? GMO ingredients in the feed. It could even be over spray from neighbors if you do not spray the pasture. Do you have your hay and pasture grass tested yearly? I wonder because of the fescue problem in brood mares and how it effects the placenta. Yes I do worry about this. We live surrounded by farm fields. Consequently, we are sprayed alot. For this reason, I refuse to let my husband cut down the mesquite trees that line our fence because we get a east wind and the tress are on the east fence. I also periodically use Animal Element detox on my animals and me. I feel it really does help detox us all. We don't fertilize the pasture, either, with chemicals. I feed Renew Gold partly because it is Non GMO. But I think people often forget the importance of keeping those teeth in great shape, too. I had an unthrifty gelding that had had his teeth done maybe 6 months before, but winwillows told me to get them checked. Sure enough, he had some hooks that needed attention. It was amazing how fast he turned around. That was the only thing I changed.
Speaking of chicken fertilizer. My husband said he saw more downer cows on chicken fertilized pastures than others. He had a practice in an area of Arkansas that had lots of chicken houses. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Please don't be distracted by the random irrelevant comments that were posted on this thread. There has been a little bit of an issue with a person throwing out "ideas" about what could be going on with our horses...Usually mentioning medicated liquid molasses or something contaminating the hay.
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Location: NE Texas | It has been an educational year without a doubt! My horses are not on processed/concetrated feed either and also look and feel better than ever. I want to personally thank you for sharing your journey with us here on BHW. I have fought different battles this year with a particular horse, but I believe that in reality, it's somewhat all tied together. Not poison, but rather what processed feed and synthetics have done, and continue to do, to our horse's hind gut. | |
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Location: Kentucky | It's been a heck of a journey here in KY also.
Looking back to April, I was SO frustrated with not finding answers for my mare. She was showing colic signs at least once a week and I was dosing her with banamine each time. It turns out that the levels of sulfur in the TC Senior were high. I spoke with two TC reps and they said it wasn't the TC causing her problems, that is was most likely my hay or water. Sorry, no. As soon as I switched her to Tribute, her colic has stopped and she hasn't shown any colic signs since then. Funny how when I pulled her from the TC that she stopped her symptoms. Hm.
I would love to switch both of my horses to the Omnis Cubes, but there are currently no reps in KY, so I'll stick with Tribute so far. I have researched until my eyes pop out and I do feel relatively safe with them, but I'm still "burned" by TC (a brand that I had fed for years, and paid $25 a bag!). Now I'm saving money with Tribute ($15 a bag) and know I'm not feeding my mare poison.
Folks around here think I'm nuts for researching feed programs, but I truly believe that horses will "tell" you when something is wrong. People just tend to not listen and attribute it to "attitude". | |
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| So glad to read this thread... sounds like my horse . I will be interested to follow. I feed Bluebonnet but am interested in which Bluebonnet you use. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Herbie - 2015-10-06 9:07 AM It has been an educational year without a doubt! My horses are not on processed/concetrated feed either and also look and feel better than ever. I want to personally thank you for sharing your journey with us here on BHW. I have fought different battles this year with a particular horse, but I believe that in reality, it's somewhat all tied together. Not poison, but rather what processed feed and synthetics have done, and continue to do, to our horse's hind gut.
I absolutely agree. After learning that the FDA only tests for guaranteed analysis and will not investigate unless there's suspicion I knew that we had found the answer. They subsititute ingredients to meet the analysis with no consideration as to whether it's actually good for horses or not. Would you knowingly feed your horse cotton seed hulls? | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rachellyn80 - 2015-10-06 9:27 AM Herbie - 2015-10-06 9:07 AM It has been an educational year without a doubt! My horses are not on processed/concetrated feed either and also look and feel better than ever. I want to personally thank you for sharing your journey with us here on BHW. I have fought different battles this year with a particular horse, but I believe that in reality, it's somewhat all tied together. Not poison, but rather what processed feed and synthetics have done, and continue to do, to our horse's hind gut. I absolutely agree. After learning that the FDA only tests for guaranteed analysis and will not investigate unless there's suspicion I knew that we had found the answer. They subsititute ingredients to meet the analysis with no consideration as to whether it's actually good for horses or not. Would you knowingly feed your horse cotton seed hulls?
I wouldn't because of gossypol. Cows do ok on limited amounts, it's toxic to non-ruminants. The oil is ok tho. | |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Murphy - 2015-10-06 9:20 AM It's been a heck of a journey here in KY also.
Looking back to April, I was SO frustrated with not finding answers for my mare. She was showing colic signs at least once a week and I was dosing her with banamine each time. It turns out that the levels of sulfur in the TC Senior were high. I spoke with two TC reps and they said it wasn't the TC causing her problems, that is was most likely my hay or water. Sorry, no. As soon as I switched her to Tribute, her colic has stopped and she hasn't shown any colic signs since then. Funny how when I pulled her from the TC that she stopped her symptoms. Hm.
I would love to switch both of my horses to the Omnis Cubes, but there are currently no reps in KY, so I'll stick with Tribute so far. I have researched until my eyes pop out and I do feel relatively safe with them, but I'm still "burned" by TC (a brand that I had fed for years, and paid $25 a bag!). Now I'm saving money with Tribute ($15 a bag) and know I'm not feeding my mare poison.
Folks around here think I'm nuts for researching feed programs, but I truly believe that horses will "tell" you when something is wrong. People just tend to not listen and attribute it to "attitude".
I had one that would stretch like a dog after eating, just acted like she was uncomfortable. After switching to an alfalfa and rice bran diet, that totally resolved. She's doing way better physically and mentally, but I have also worked my butt off on her this year after being behind on her training due to injuries. so I can't totally attribute the better attitude and focus to feed, but I'm positive it helped. | |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-10-06 9:59 AM
Murphy - 2015-10-06 9:20 AM It's been a heck of a journey here in KY also.
Looking back to April, I was SO frustrated with not finding answers for my mare. She was showing colic signs at least once a week and I was dosing her with banamine each time. It turns out that the levels of sulfur in the TC Senior were high. I spoke with two TC reps and they said it wasn't the TC causing her problems, that is was most likely my hay or water. Sorry, no. As soon as I switched her to Tribute, her colic has stopped and she hasn't shown any colic signs since then. Funny how when I pulled her from the TC that she stopped her symptoms. Hm.Â
I would love to switch both of my horses to the Omnis Cubes, but there are currently no reps in KY, so I'll stick with Tribute so far. I have researched until my eyes pop out and I do feel relatively safe with them, but I'm still "burned" by TC (a brand that I had fed for years, and paid $25 a bag!). Now I'm saving money with Tribute ($15 a bag) and know I'm not feeding my mare poison.Â
Folks around here think I'm nuts for researching feed programs, but I truly believe that horses will "tell" you when something is wrong.  People just tend to not listen and attribute it to "attitude".Â
 I had one that would stretch like a dog after eating, just acted like she was uncomfortable.  After switching to an alfalfa and rice bran diet, that totally resolved.  She's doing way better physically and mentally, but I have also worked my butt off on her this year after being behind on her training due to injuries.  so I can't totally attribute the better attitude and focus to feed, but I'm positive it helped.Â
I switched to Tribute in the last month or so we have no dealer here but I can buy it on Amazon. They are suppose to safe from the research I have done and talking to them. I was feeding TC earlier and have for years but the quality had gotten bad and then I had two horses colic in 3 days and then didn't want to eat it so I stopped feeding it and found something else. I am happy with the Tribute right now it cost me more because of shipping but worth it at this point. | |
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