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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-10-15 2:49 PM
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While we are on the subject, I don't know if anyone agrees, but I'm sick of hearing people whine about their college debt. Half the kids whining are going to more expensive schools. I'm not saying that college tuition costs aren't ridiculous. Maybe if more kids shop around for a good education for the money, competition will make it's way into that marketplace as well, just like anything else. Having said that, if you accumulate $100,000 in college debt, tough sh!t. Pay it off....then buy your home, etc....
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-10-15 2:52 PM
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What I see as far as the college debt, these kids are being convinced that "bigger is better".  That they have to have the brand name college to succeed.  No they don't.  Not just for a basic degree.  But we have raised children to be a give me society, you owe me society, thus that is what they think they should have.  There is nothing wrong with using the local colleges and schools.  Sure, it might not be as exciting to go to a local school and living with your parents, but it sure is exciting not to have that out of state or even in state room and board loan that you have ot pay back.   
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Douglas J Gordon
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Posted 2015-10-15 3:47 PM
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  That Democrat debate reminded me of the elections for school offices in Jr. High. Everyone would promise free lunches, less home work, chew gum in class, no teachers breathing their smoky breath on you, longer recesses and no swats by the Principal.
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-10-15 4:07 PM
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3canstorun - 2015-10-15 12:52 PM What I see as far as the college debt, these kids are being convinced that "bigger is better".  That they have to have the brand name college to succeed.  No they don't.  Not just for a basic degree.  But we have raised children to be a give me society, you owe me society, thus that is what they think they should have.  There is nothing wrong with using the local colleges and schools.  Sure, it might not be as exciting to go to a local school and living with your parents, but it sure is exciting not to have that out of state or even in state room and board loan that you have ot pay back.   
I'm employeed at a mid-size international company. Entry level candidates are routinely hired based on the college attended; assuming candidates with similar qualifications/interview skills. Minimum degree is BS, Masters preferred.  There is no shortage of candidates, we receive a minimum of 100 'qualified' resumes for a single position.   

A suggestion is to get your AA through Jr college, finish your degree at a University.  

 

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HarlanLivesOn
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2015-10-15 6:39 PM
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I don't understand why everyone thinks that if someone's parents cannot afford to send the kid to college, college is out of the question for that kid. I got NO financial support from my family for college, and $8/hour jobs can't pay all of your tuition. Guess what I did to make sure that I was setting myself up for a good future... I got student loans and put myself through school. Yeah, paying 1/4th of my crappy teacher salary a month towards loan payments suck, but guess what? I have a college degree and a stable job. People need to stop making excuses for lazy behavior.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-10-15 8:24 PM
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Bear - 2015-10-15 2:49 PM While we are on the subject, I don't know if anyone agrees, but I'm sick of hearing people whine about their college debt. Half the kids whining are going to more expensive schools. I'm not saying that college tuition costs aren't ridiculous. Maybe if more kids shop around for a good education for the money, competition will make it's way into that marketplace as well, just like anything else. Having said that, if you accumulate $100,000 in college debt, tough sh!t. Pay it off....then buy your home, etc....

 Absolutely agree.  I saw kids on Cali at a very expensive school walking across the stage with a symbolic ball and chain to represent the debt they now had.  When asked how many years attended-4, did they work during school -no.   Go to junior college, finish at a university,  get a plan, if you can't afford it don't go!
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-10-16 7:49 AM
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Anniemae - 2015-10-15 4:07 PM
3canstorun - 2015-10-15 12:52 PM What I see as far as the college debt, these kids are being convinced that "bigger is better".  That they have to have the brand name college to succeed.  No they don't.  Not just for a basic degree.  But we have raised children to be a give me society, you owe me society, thus that is what they think they should have.  There is nothing wrong with using the local colleges and schools.  Sure, it might not be as exciting to go to a local school and living with your parents, but it sure is exciting not to have that out of state or even in state room and board loan that you have ot pay back.   
I'm employeed at a mid-size international company. Entry level candidates are routinely hired based on the college attended; assuming candidates with similar qualifications/interview skills. Minimum degree is BS, Masters preferred.  There is no shortage of candidates, we receive a minimum of 100 'qualified' resumes for a single position.   



A suggestion is to get your AA through Jr college, finish your degree at a University.  


 

 If your degree and chosen field of employment are super competitive with an oversupply of candidates, then the school you attended would matter.  Otherwise, no one freakin cares.  
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-10-16 7:55 AM
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Three 4 Luck - 2015-10-16 8:49 AM
Anniemae - 2015-10-15 4:07 PM
3canstorun - 2015-10-15 12:52 PM What I see as far as the college debt, these kids are being convinced that "bigger is better".  That they have to have the brand name college to succeed.  No they don't.  Not just for a basic degree.  But we have raised children to be a give me society, you owe me society, thus that is what they think they should have.  There is nothing wrong with using the local colleges and schools.  Sure, it might not be as exciting to go to a local school and living with your parents, but it sure is exciting not to have that out of state or even in state room and board loan that you have ot pay back.   
I'm employeed at a mid-size international company. Entry level candidates are routinely hired based on the college attended; assuming candidates with similar qualifications/interview skills. Minimum degree is BS, Masters preferred.  There is no shortage of candidates, we receive a minimum of 100 'qualified' resumes for a single position.   



A suggestion is to get your AA through Jr college, finish your degree at a University.  


 
 If your degree and chosen field of employment are super competitive with an oversupply of candidates, then the school you attended would matter.  Otherwise, no one freakin cares.  

I guess I should have worded that better.  There is no reason to trot off to Harvard to get a four year  teaching degree when you can get one in your state.  No need to get an associates degree for nursing (if that is the level you want) in another state when your local school will do.  People have access to good schools locally.  Our daughter went to a good school 45 miles away to get her nursing degree.  And it was a very good nursing school.   However, to get her Nurse Practioners, she did go to one of the top ten schools in the United States, that did make a difference to her job offers.   
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-10-17 9:02 PM
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......and one more thing. Why does it take so many students 5-6, even 7 years to get a 4 year degree? Oh, and since when did it become commonplace for college kids to go to places like Daytona Beach and Cancun on spring break?
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