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Location: Texas | OregonBR - 2015-11-12 1:05 PM
Talkeetnababe - 2015-11-12 7:11 AM
Im pretty positive their measurements are off. They don't set the stake at the center of the barrel, and I think the timer distance is off slightly.
This ^^^^
A lot of the time in the south the barrels are set on the inside of the markers. This is different than the rules for the WPRA "standard pattern".
I will venture to say over 90% of the time we don't stake on the center. We set ours up "fence, stake, barrel" just about everywhere we go unless the arena has lasers. Only time I see it in the middle is when i go to rodeos. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | In the NW, I don't know of any associations (even the games associations) that don't set the barrels on the markers. The course is measured the markers are set on the correct measurement, then the barrels are set centered over the markers. But I did notice that is not the norm for other areas.
If you're running at a WPRA approved event, they must set the pattern according to the WPRA rules which require the barrels to be centered on the markers.
Edited by OregonBR 2015-11-12 4:00 PM
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Location: North Dakota | casualdust07 - 2015-11-12 1:40 PM OregonBR - 2015-11-12 1:05 PM Talkeetnababe - 2015-11-12 7:11 AM Im pretty positive their measurements are off. They don't set the stake at the center of the barrel, and I think the timer distance is off slightly. This ^^^^ A lot of the time in the south the barrels are set on the inside of the markers. This is different than the rules for the WPRA "standard pattern". I will venture to say over 90% of the time we don't stake on the center. We set ours up "fence, stake, barrel" just about everywhere we go unless the arena has lasers. Only time I see it in the middle is when i go to rodeos.
Around here at our jackpots and amateur rodeos, I only ever see the barrel put on the inside of the stake. Haven't actually RAN at a pro-rodeo yet and I honestly haven't paid close enough attention times before so I'm not sure if they do the same, or put the barrel on the center of the stake. Honestly, I don't know how reliable it is to put the barrel on the center of the stake. How can you see the stake and KNOW you put it right in the center? Of course, they should also have a mark on the SIDE of the barrel so you know when you put the stake on the outside of the barrel that it's in the same spot each time and not slightly off. (One can get really nitpicky!)
There's only one big barrel race that uses a laser from the ceiling to set the barrel, that is somewhat in my area. Which is nice, because there really isn't a way you can screw that up! The laser mark has to go in the center. Easy.
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Location: Texas | r_beau - 2015-11-12 4:09 PM
casualdust07 - 2015-11-12 1:40 PM OregonBR - 2015-11-12 1:05 PM Talkeetnababe - 2015-11-12 7:11 AM Im pretty positive their measurements are off. They don't set the stake at the center of the barrel, and I think the timer distance is off slightly. This ^^^^ A lot of the time in the south the barrels are set on the inside of the markers. This is different than the rules for the WPRA "standard pattern". I will venture to say over 90% of the time we don't stake on the center. We set ours up "fence, stake, barrel" just about everywhere we go unless the arena has lasers. Only time I see it in the middle is when i go to rodeos.
There's only one big barrel race that uses a laser from the ceiling to set the barrel, that is somewhat in my area. Which is nice, because there really isn't a way you can screw that up! The laser mark has to go in the center. Easy.
I didnt know the pro rodeos did it in the center either until my friend's mom told me. and yeah, I asked the same question. At the big barrel races that use lasers its no big deal but idk how you would know a rope stake was in the center or not. But I'm sure those who are used to staking it that way know how to do it right |
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Location: MD | OregonBR - 2015-11-12 3:58 PM
In the NW, I don't know of any associations (even the games associations) that don't set the barrels on the markers. The course is measured the markers are set on the correct measurement, then the barrels are set centered over the markers. But I did notice that is not the norm for other areas.
If you're running at a WPRA approved event, they must set the pattern according to the WPRA rules which require the barrels to be centered on the markers.
This is exactly why more and more of the pens in NJ are putting lasers in. Most of the MD/DE shows are NBHA only and still use stakes |
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | We don't have any shows here that are set on the standard pattern sizes. Or at least advertised as that. Even the PRCA's in the Southeast. . . can be won with anything from mid to high 14 second runs to mid 17 second runs. Same people, same horses. The patterns are set by the shape and size of the arena's, not the "standard" I guess. Southeast Circut Finals first go round was won last night with a 14.89.
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | Also, I love lasers, but half our pens are outdoor pens, no way to put up lasers.
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