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Location: IL | I have a questions about a horse selling on application. What does that mean and how do you go about getting the horse registered? The horse will be registered with APHA. I don't breed horses and have always bought a registered horse, so I have no idea how this works. Horse will be at an auction and I want to make sure I have all my ducks in a row incase I buy him.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | The application needs to be properly filled out, signed by the breeder (mare owner at the time of breeding), stallion owner and the mare owner at time of foaling. That may be the same person, two or three different people. The seller has to be the owner of the mare when she foaled because that is the owner of the foal as well. If the person who is selling is the owner at the time of foaling, they need to complete a transfer from them to whomever buys the horse. If they are not and the horse has passed through other hands before the current owner, it becomes much more difficult. You will need a signed transfer from the legal owner. Is there a way to look at the paperwork that has been submitted to the sale office?
ETA: By "legal" I mean the owner per APHA records.
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Location: IL | OregonBR - 2015-11-18 11:23 AM The application needs to be properly filled out, signed by the breeder (mare owner at the time of breeding), stallion owner and the mare owner at time of foaling. That may be the same person, two or three different people. The seller has to be the owner of the mare when she foaled because that is the owner of the foal as well. If the person who is selling is the owner at the time of foaling, they need to complete a transfer from them to whomever buys the horse. If they are not and the horse has passed through other hands before the current owner, it becomes much more difficult. You will need a signed transfer from the legal owner. Is there a way to look at the paperwork that has been submitted to the sale office? ETA: By "legal" I mean the owner per APHA records.
Wow that seems confusing. I don't know if I can view paperwork first. I will have to find out, because that will determine the sale. So all of these forms should be filled out prior to the colt being sold and then I would have to fill out after I bought him? I might pass on this. I wish people would just have horse registered. How much are the fees? Do you know? |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | merdth6 - 2015-11-18 10:48 AM
OregonBR - 2015-11-18 11:23 AM The application needs to be properly filled out, signed by the breeder (mare owner at the time of breeding), stallion owner and the mare owner at time of foaling. That may be the same person, two or three different people. The seller has to be the owner of the mare when she foaled because that is the owner of the foal as well. If the person who is selling is the owner at the time of foaling, they need to complete a transfer from them to whomever buys the horse. If they are not and the horse has passed through other hands before the current owner, it becomes much more difficult. You will need a signed transfer from the legal owner. Is there a way to look at the paperwork that has been submitted to the sale office? ETA: By "legal" I mean the owner per APHA records.
Wow that seems confusing. I don't know if I can view paperwork first. I will have to find out, because that will determine the sale. So all of these forms should be filled out prior to the colt being sold and then I would have to fill out after I bought him? I might pass on this. I wish people would just have horse registered. How much are the fees? Do you know?
There are only 2 forms if the owner now is the owner at birth. The application and the transfer. It doesn't have to be confusing if (like you said) people would just do their job. If you raise horses, get the proper paperwork filled out and sent in. It's the easiest when it's done in a timely way.
Well one thing you can do is walk away. If the sale office has the paperwork there already go look it over. If you contact me when you have seen it, I can tell you if it's in order. Don't count on the auction company to know everything either. They may or they may not. |
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Location: IL | OregonBR - 2015-11-18 12:53 PM merdth6 - 2015-11-18 10:48 AM OregonBR - 2015-11-18 11:23 AM The application needs to be properly filled out, signed by the breeder (mare owner at the time of breeding), stallion owner and the mare owner at time of foaling. That may be the same person, two or three different people. The seller has to be the owner of the mare when she foaled because that is the owner of the foal as well. If the person who is selling is the owner at the time of foaling, they need to complete a transfer from them to whomever buys the horse. If they are not and the horse has passed through other hands before the current owner, it becomes much more difficult. You will need a signed transfer from the legal owner. Is there a way to look at the paperwork that has been submitted to the sale office? ETA: By "legal" I mean the owner per APHA records. Wow that seems confusing. I don't know if I can view paperwork first. I will have to find out, because that will determine the sale. So all of these forms should be filled out prior to the colt being sold and then I would have to fill out after I bought him? I might pass on this. I wish people would just have horse registered. How much are the fees? Do you know? There are only 2 forms if the owner now is the owner at birth. The application and the transfer. It doesn't have to be confusing if (like you said ) people would just do their job. If you raise horses, get the proper paperwork filled out and sent in. It's the easiest when it's done in a timely way. Well one thing you can do is walk away. If the sale office has the paperwork there already go look it over. If you contact me when you have seen it, I can tell you if it's in order. Don't count on the auction company to know everything either. They may or they may not.
Thanks, I've already put an email into the sale barn about it.  |
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Location: NE Pa-Gods Country | the cost of registration will also depend on how old the horse is...in APHA there is one price for 'colored regular registry' and for 'solid paint bred'....the older the foal the more it will cost. regular registry....0-3 mo $40 july1-sept 30 - $50 oct1 - dec 32 - $65 yearling year $115 2yo - $265 3yo - $515 ...solid paint bred is from $30 - $115 . |
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| Also don't take any persons word as application is in order, too many crooked people out there, and too many people who assume that since it was in order when the horse was a foal, so that means when the horse is 16 the application is still in order.
I would call the registry office to ensure there was a stallion report filed and the mare was on the stallion report. I would also make sure there are no liens on the horses, no court proceedings, no suspensions, anything that would prevent me from registering the horse. |
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