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| aggiejudger - 2014-05-06 7:42 AM GWR - 2014-05-05 11:41 PM aggiejudger - 2014-05-05 1:36 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions. 
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay.
I truly believe there is not one feed that works for everyone. Just like a diet doesn't work for all people. No need to bash a feed if it doesn't work for your horses. Everyone's setup is different. TE seems to be a great feed in Texas, but it was designed with the state's setup in mind (that's my guess). So that may be why it doesn't work elsewhere. Also, since it is made here, our costs for it aren't near as high as other parts of the country.
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Location: Big Sky Country | CBGalaxy - 2014-05-01 10:05 PM I just got 4 more bags. My mare that I just could NOT get to fill out now looks amazing! She also went from 4D to 1/2D. I have not had any problems with her dropping weight at all. The bags I just got yesterday do seem to have smaller pellets, but I think that is good. My mare doesn't lose any that way! Smaller pellets doesn't hurt anything the weight of the bag is the same. I just started my gelding on it too. They are OBSESSED with it. It still smells sweet to me like the bags before. I am sure it is like anything else it doesn't work for every horse. I would also check the hay your feeding, water content (if you are having calcium problems) and other supplements. The only thing I'd like to take out of TE is the sugar. I avoid sugar and corn in any feed. I am sure we are all crazy horse ladies/guys here and have our preferences though! lol
The second ingredient is CORN so you are feeding corn, just so you know.
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| Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa. |
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| I'm well aware but thanks for pointing that out anyway Donkey Jockey. I try to avoid corn as much as possible. In this case TE worked so well for my horse that I don't care. Actually, it is the only feed I have ever fed with corn. I don't grain/etc. and never have. I think it is important to remember if you get to hung up on certain things it won't do you any good and probably doesn't make much sense. If it works for your horse, it works for your horse end of story. For me anyway. |
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Location: Lost in Texas | Bales Hay - 2014-05-31 12:16 PM
Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa.
It's not Texas alfalfa it's made from.. The feed is made from alfalfa in Utah, that's cubed there for Hay Rite. Hay Rite has a location in Weatherford, Tx, about a hour from the mill that makes the total equine. Yes, TE buys their alfalfa from hay rite. My parents are dealers for both TE and now hay rite.. They pick up their feed at both places themselves.. Many times you'll find one of the guys that developed TE in the hay rite office. Hay Rite now makes a feed that's very comparable to TE.. But without corn and by products like wheat middlings, ect. It's also cheaper for a 50# sack. Most of my parents customers switched over.. I didn't like how any of mine looked on TE, but they all look amazing on Hay Rites feed.
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Location: Beggs, OK | Bales Hay - 2014-05-31 12:16 PM Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa.
Does anyone know who mills Total Equine Feed? Do they have their own facilities? |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | We used to sell it and I tried to get the information but was always told "its from a mill down south and that they make some batches at a time". We stopped carrying the feed before all the information that was revealed later about mills. Wish I could be of more help. |
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| I had fed my horse Total Equine for almost 2 years (only horse I fed it too) it helped with bad feet. This summer my horse stopped sweating, hair became dry and burnt feeling, I hadnt changed anything so I started dark beer and it helped some but still not normal. I sent a mane analysis off to Simply Equine and she told me that my horse had something synthetic in it body that was shutting glands down (the gland that produces sweat and oils for hair) and she asked me about my horse' daily routine and it was determined that TE was the cause of the sweating and poor coat problems from the type of corn that is used to make TE. Took my horse off Total Equine and put it on the Herbs recommended by Simply Equine and now we have no problems with sweating and hair coat is normal deep rich color. |
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| CaughtYawl - 2014-06-01 10:06 AM
Bales Hay - 2014-05-31 12:16 PM
Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa.
It's not Texas alfalfa it's made from.. The feed is made from alfalfa in Utah, that's cubed there for Hay Rite. Hay Rite has a location in Weatherford, Tx, about a hour from the mill that makes the total equine. Yes, TE buys their alfalfa from hay rite. My parents are dealers for both TE and now hay rite.. They pick up their feed at both places themselves.. Many times you'll find one of the guys that developed TE in the hay rite office. Hay Rite now makes a feed that's very comparable to TE.. But without corn and by products like wheat middlings, ect. It's also cheaper for a 50# sack. Most of my parents customers switched over.. I didn't like how any of mine looked on TE, but they all look amazing on Hay Rites feed.
I have fed TE in the past and liked it ok. What is exactly is hayright and is it only in TX? Is it similar to the Omni cubes on here (I called them and they don't have a dealer near me). I can only find cubes that are just hay in my area, so far. |
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| aggiejudger - 2014-05-05 3:36 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay.
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Location: Carpenter, WY | I'm generally not a fan of many of the supplements and actually the only thing besides hay we buy is T E. I've had 32 year old Teehaha on it for a few years now and she looks and feels great. She gets a soaked scoop in the morning and one at night and gums it down without any waste. She was even out there bucking yesterday as she ran around. Whatever is in it definitely is helping her maintain weight and keeping the grand old lady feeling fiesty. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-05-06 6:05 AM amy laymon - 2014-05-06 9:01 AM When I read threads like this all I think of is how many horses have hock issues caused by bone overgrowth. In other words spurs etc. To much calcium versus phosphorus and magnesium. Feeding a feed with this much alfalfa equates to a lot of calcium?? I haven't seen the label. Then if your feeding alfalfa hay on top of it. Vets sure like it when people run in to get injections all the time though. That is a Unfair statement . I think its far from the truth. Vets know its a risk of infection and dont promote injections and in fact most will not do them unless called for the comfort of horse.
eta: and Utah and Colorado....
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Location: Beggs, OK | CaughtYawl - 2014-06-01 10:06 AM Bales Hay - 2014-05-31 12:16 PM Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa. It's not Texas alfalfa it's made from.. The feed is made from alfalfa in Utah, that's cubed there for Hay Rite. Hay Rite has a location in Weatherford, Tx, about a hour from the mill that makes the total equine. Yes, TE buys their alfalfa from hay rite. My parents are dealers for both TE and now hay rite.. They pick up their feed at both places themselves.. Many times you'll find one of the guys that developed TE in the hay rite office. Hay Rite now makes a feed that's very comparable to TE.. But without corn and by products like wheat middlings, ect. It's also cheaper for a 50# sack. Most of my parents customers switched over.. I didn't like how any of mine looked on TE, but they all look amazing on Hay Rites feed.
It's interesting that TE would be made out of processed alfalfa... If it's baled and then cubed and then made into an extruded feed, you'd have to wonder what the nutritional value would be at the end?
I still haven't figured out where it's being milled. TE only lists a PO Box address and the physical address is a home. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Got it. TE says their feed is milled here:
https://muenstermilling.com/ |
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| Yes, it is milled in Muenster, TX. We are getting a shipment tomorrow from there. We have been dealers for years and have good success with the feed. |
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Location: never in the right place | SG. - 2014-03-21 12:12 AM Trying something new :) I think my horses are happier too Standlee
so SG you only feed hay pellets and grass/baled hay? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | ctdrumrunr - 2015-12-02 3:40 PM SG. - 2014-03-21 12:12 AM Trying something new :) I think my horses are happier too Standlee so SG you only feed hay pellets and grass/baled hay?
She's feeding Omnis Cubes now. This is an old thread that I bumped up to get some information. |
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| I started mixing my own from feed that I know is from ionophore free mills. Oats, Barkley, beet pulp shreds and Timothy pellets. My hay has a high alfalfa content, hence the Timothy. If I was feeding mainly grass, I would swap out the timothy for alfalfa. I'm adding THE for the vitamin and a trace mineral salt. So far my results have been outstanding. |
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Location: Bama | http://alabamahorsetalk.com/equinenutritiontips/
Total Equine is produced in two locations:
In Texas
In Alabama at AFC’s Demopolis mill
I don't know if this is correct, but it may give you more info for researching. My feed dealer today did tell me it came out of Alabama, because I was asking about the low starch version. |
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Location: never in the right place | rachellyn80 - 2015-12-02 4:41 PM ctdrumrunr - 2015-12-02 3:40 PM SG. - 2014-03-21 12:12 AM Trying something new :) I think my horses are happier too Standlee so SG you only feed hay pellets and grass/baled hay?
thanks I didn't look at the dates
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