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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2016-02-27 2:06 AM
Subject: RE: App vs QH vs Paint prices



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rodeoveteran - 2016-02-26 8:52 PM

I would be looking to buy for me. But if for whatever reason, we didn't click, would like to get my money back out of it. I have already lost my hiney on a gorgeous, well bred, talented mare that took 9 years to finally give up on. Anything that go wrong with a horse pretty much plagued her. I got 2 half summers out of that 9 years. Wasn't really her fault, just a black cloud floating above her head the whole time she was here.

Now don't have a large amount of cash to put into another horse. Found one that really caught my eye and if it is as talented as it looks, might be substantially less expensive than an equivalent QH. I have horses that I raised that I could sell but it would be a difficult decision since I brought them in to the world and raised one as an orphan from 3 weeks old. Am getting long in the tooth and don't have the years to put in to one as I once had.

Can't afford to lose my butt again or my rodeo career is

If you can't afford to lose money, don't buy another horse. haha


If you want to be more likely to make your money back, go AQHA.

Well, THAT was helpful....not. This is NOT my first goat ropin'.

Unlike some I cannot justify taking out a loan on ANY horse. Just trying to determine the possibility of getting at least most of my money out of a horse that I would need to finish, presuming that it was a better horse than I bought, if I went outside the box looking for a possibly jam up rodeo horse that was unconventionally colored.

A crop out paint is probably your best bet.
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cecollins0811
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Posted 2016-02-27 6:50 AM
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purplemoon828 - 2016-02-26 10:29 AM

Myself personally I don't care. I just want a fast, willing, good minded horse. That being said my husband does not like light colored horses, isn't fond of paints, and feels about the same about an appaloosa. I have no idea why but he doesn't care for them. It seems many feel that way and it does seem that they are priced lower because of it. I suppose it depends on the buyer as well

Same same same. I blame is on my husbands family growing up and everyone else's attitude about them around here in SOCO. I grew up in Cali and rode many different breeds so I never became breed-phobic. My first horse was fleebitten so I don't care about color but my husband swears up and down that a lighter colored horse is more sensitive to work loads than a bay or sorrel.
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tracies
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Posted 2016-02-27 7:19 AM
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rodeoveteran - 2016-02-26 8:52 PM I would be looking to buy for me. But if for whatever reason, we didn't click, would like to get my money back out of it. I have already lost my hiney on a gorgeous, well bred, talented mare that took 9 years to finally give up on. Anything that go wrong with a horse pretty much plagued her. I got 2 half summers out of that 9 years. Wasn't really her fault, just a black cloud floating above her head the whole time she was here. Now don't have a large amount of cash to put into another horse. Found one that really caught my eye and if it is as talented as it looks, might be substantially less expensive than an equivalent QH. I have horses that I raised that I could sell but it would be a difficult decision since I brought them in to the world and raised one as an orphan from 3 weeks old. Am getting long in the tooth and don't have the years to put in to one as I once had. Can't afford to lose my butt again or my rodeo career is
If you can't afford to lose money, don't buy another horse. haha If you want to be more likely to make your money back, go AQHA.
Well, THAT was helpful....not. This is NOT my first goat ropin'. Unlike some I cannot justify taking out a loan on ANY horse. Just trying to determine the possibility of getting at least most of my money out of a horse that I would need to finish, presuming that it was a better horse than I bought, if I went outside the box looking for a possibly jam up rodeo horse that was unconventionally colored.
A crop out paint is probably your best bet.

 Do you mean a Solid Paint Bred ? There are quite a few SPB incentive races (side pots) these days that, I think, make owning one a bit more worth while in the barrel horse world. I bought one thinking I would run in some of those races. That was before I did my homework & found out that APHA requires that one parent be colored (regular paint registry) to run in those races. I am still over the moon happy with my purchase, but disappointed that I couldn't enter solid paint classes. (His dam is SPB, sire is AQHA). I agree that they are a less expensive alternative to AQHA & more & more have nice barrel racing lines. 
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-02-27 9:05 AM
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rodeoveteran - 2016-02-26 9:09 PM

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rodeoveteran - 2016-02-26 8:52 PM

I would be looking to buy for me. But if for whatever reason, we didn't click, would like to get my money back out of it. I have already lost my hiney on a gorgeous, well bred, talented mare that took 9 years to finally give up on. Anything that go wrong with a horse pretty much plagued her. I got 2 half summers out of that 9 years. Wasn't really her fault, just a black cloud floating above her head the whole time she was here.

Now don't have a large amount of cash to put into another horse. Found one that really caught my eye and if it is as talented as it looks, might be substantially less expensive than an equivalent QH. I have horses that I raised that I could sell but it would be a difficult decision since I brought them in to the world and raised one as an orphan from 3 weeks old. Am getting long in the tooth and don't have the years to put in to one as I once had.

Can't afford to lose my butt again or my rodeo career is

If you can't afford to lose money, don't buy another horse. haha


If you want to be more likely to make your money back, go AQHA.

Well, THAT was helpful....not. This is NOT my first goat ropin'.

Unlike some I cannot justify taking out a loan on ANY horse. Just trying to determine the possibility of getting at least most of my money out of a horse that I would need to finish, presuming that it was a better horse than I bought, if I went outside the box looking for a possibly jam up rodeo horse that was unconventionally colored.

obviously the first part was a joke, that's what the haha indicates. I gave you my real answer to your question after, you want to be able to resale, better stick to what is tried and true to sell, QHs or maybe a colorful paint (double registered would be a good bet, but those tend to be pricy).
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Three 4 Luck
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Posted 2016-02-27 9:23 AM
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pippy - 2016-02-26 7:40 PM

Paints are the industry's best kept secrets. I would never balk at a paint. As far as an appy, the market is small, but I wouldn't object to one I just wouldn't pay much.

I have 3 solid paints in my pasture right now, and if these are representative of horses with paint papers, I hope they stay a secret so I can continue to afford them. They're mostly QH/TB bloodlines anyway, and I sure can't tell by looking at them that they're not AQHA.
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Three 4 Luck
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Posted 2016-02-27 9:30 AM
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tracies - 2016-02-27 7:19 AM
oija - 2016-02-27 2:06 AM
rodeoveteran - 2016-02-26 8:09 PM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-02-26 8:00 PM
rodeoveteran - 2016-02-26 8:52 PM I would be looking to buy for me. But if for whatever reason, we didn't click, would like to get my money back out of it. I have already lost my hiney on a gorgeous, well bred, talented mare that took 9 years to finally give up on. Anything that go wrong with a horse pretty much plagued her. I got 2 half summers out of that 9 years. Wasn't really her fault, just a black cloud floating above her head the whole time she was here. Now don't have a large amount of cash to put into another horse. Found one that really caught my eye and if it is as talented as it looks, might be substantially less expensive than an equivalent QH. I have horses that I raised that I could sell but it would be a difficult decision since I brought them in to the world and raised one as an orphan from 3 weeks old. Am getting long in the tooth and don't have the years to put in to one as I once had. Can't afford to lose my butt again or my rodeo career is
If you can't afford to lose money, don't buy another horse. haha If you want to be more likely to make your money back, go AQHA.
Well, THAT was helpful....not. This is NOT my first goat ropin'. Unlike some I cannot justify taking out a loan on ANY horse. Just trying to determine the possibility of getting at least most of my money out of a horse that I would need to finish, presuming that it was a better horse than I bought, if I went outside the box looking for a possibly jam up rodeo horse that was unconventionally colored.
A crop out paint is probably your best bet.
 Do you mean a Solid Paint Bred ? There are quite a few SPB incentive races (side pots) these days that, I think, make owning one a bit more worth while in the barrel horse world. I bought one thinking I would run in some of those races. That was before I did my homework & found out that APHA requires that one parent be colored (regular paint registry) to run in those races. I am still over the moon happy with my purchase, but disappointed that I couldn't enter solid paint classes. (His dam is SPB, sire is AQHA). I agree that they are a less expensive alternative to AQHA & more & more have nice barrel racing lines. 

 I thought they grandfathered that program so that the one colored parent requirement doesn't apply if the horse was born before like 2013 or something.   One of mine has 2 colored parents, and the other is by a QH out of a solid mare.  
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GoinJettin
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2016-02-27 9:35 AM
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We have 2 AQHA and 3 APHA right now.  We have definitely been looking the APHA way for a new reiner since the association is starting to put more money into promoting the breed.  The arabian and 1/2 arabain reiners have tons of added money right now but I just can't quite see myself on an arabian at this time. 
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2016-02-27 10:24 AM
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oija - 2016-02-27 2:06 AM
rodeoveteran - 2016-02-26 8:09 PM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-02-26 8:00 PM
rodeoveteran - 2016-02-26 8:52 PM I would be looking to buy for me. But if for whatever reason, we didn't click, would like to get my money back out of it. I have already lost my hiney on a gorgeous, well bred, talented mare that took 9 years to finally give up on. Anything that go wrong with a horse pretty much plagued her. I got 2 half summers out of that 9 years. Wasn't really her fault, just a black cloud floating above her head the whole time she was here. Now don't have a large amount of cash to put into another horse. Found one that really caught my eye and if it is as talented as it looks, might be substantially less expensive than an equivalent QH. I have horses that I raised that I could sell but it would be a difficult decision since I brought them in to the world and raised one as an orphan from 3 weeks old. Am getting long in the tooth and don't have the years to put in to one as I once had. Can't afford to lose my butt again or my rodeo career is
If you can't afford to lose money, don't buy another horse. haha If you want to be more likely to make your money back, go AQHA.
Well, THAT was helpful....not. This is NOT my first goat ropin'. Unlike some I cannot justify taking out a loan on ANY horse. Just trying to determine the possibility of getting at least most of my money out of a horse that I would need to finish, presuming that it was a better horse than I bought, if I went outside the box looking for a possibly jam up rodeo horse that was unconventionally colored.
A crop out paint is probably your best bet.

 Do you mean a Solid Paint Bred ? There are quite a few SPB incentive races (side pots) these days that, I think, make owning one a bit more worth while in the barrel horse world. I bought one thinking I would run in some of those races. That was before I did my homework & found out that APHA requires that one parent be colored (regular paint registry) to run in those races. I am still over the moon happy with my purchase, but disappointed that I couldn't enter solid paint classes. (His dam is SPB, sire is AQHA). I agree that they are a less expensive alternative to AQHA & more & more have nice barrel racing lines. 

Yes. Buyers who are leery of colored horses are more likely to buy. Of course with the new PBRIP rules this may change.
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tracies
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2016-02-27 5:08 PM
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I'm glad you said that because last I checked was about a year ago. I just want to the new rules & I think that rule changes. It says "1. All APHA registered horses will be allowed to participate in PBRIP."
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geronabean
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Posted 2016-02-27 5:13 PM
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same horse talent, level, build, etc... ones a paint ones a qh... qh will sell easier and for more money.

I see that slowly changing but it needs to change NOW cause I have 2 paints for sale!
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2016-02-27 7:33 PM
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geronabean - 2016-02-27 5:13 PM

same horse talent, level, build, etc... ones a paint ones a qh... qh will sell easier and for more money.

I see that slowly changing but it needs to change NOW cause I have 2 paints for sale!

That I already figured. Was just trying to get a handle on percentages, I guess. If I can find a jam up rodeo horse for myself for less money, I have no problem riding color. I am too poor to be that particular. Plus, I must admit, I started my rodeo career on my first horse, who was an App. Have heard all the jokes, wouldn't mind showing them that there are some good ones out there.
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