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| say a maiden mare had a healthy pregnancy all along and then delivered a foal full-term that was stillborn. vet inspected mare and foal and classified it as a late term abortion. found nothing wrong with the mare or her placenta, and the foal was perfect and fully developed but just never took a breath. if a mare does this once, is she likely to do it again??? or is it just kind of a freak thing and doesn't necessarily mean it'll happen again?? This was my sister's mare and she is nervous to rebreed her this year after this experience. hoping people with more breeding experience may be able to shed some light for her. thanks. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | Several years ago I had a maiden that aborted in the last trimester. No known reason everything seemed fine. She has had 2 successful pregnancies and births since then and is due this week. I think it can just happen some times just like it does with women. With her second pregnancy I got several ultrasounds on her. I was really worried it would happen again. i was religious about her pneumabort K shots and every thing else. |
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| We work by the rule - the breeding after a abortion is a 50/50.... they will either be easy, or die. I've seen it go both ways. One mare - late term abortion, rebred with fantastic care, had a violent foaling and both mare and foal died. Another mare - late term abortion, rebred a few years later after NO care following the abortion or during the pregnancy itself, foaled a perfectly healthy foal no problems.
Personally? I don't think I would rebreed the mare that aborted. Simply because I watched that first horse's very violent death - and she had no issues foaling before that year and she'd had many foals. |
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Location: mi | My mare had a similar experience only the foal was about a month too soon. But otherwise looked healthy and the placenta looked fine and the mare was fine it just never took a breath.
Rebred her a couple years later and all was fine and the next foal was fine too. I did however pick a different stud even though I could of gotten a rebreed just in case it was some combo of mare and stallion not working well together.
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Location: Pittsburg, Texas | A violent birth/abortion is no different than with a human. I've had healthy babies after they have thrown a foal. One mare this last year aborted after 2 months. We have had her under lights to rebreed very soon. BUT.....there is usually a reason for aborting a foal. I had this mare checked, cultured, and hormes checked. Turned out she had picked up eColi which is usually from poop and ground.....her confirmation is great....she just picked it up from the soil. Treated her and all is well. There are some mares that have a weak uterus. I would never be afraid to rebreed your mare, nature is nature. A good vet is a must!! |
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| I had a maiden mare years ago go into labor in Jan but didn't foal. I took her to the vet and they pulled the dead foal out. I never did know why but I rebred that mare to the same stud that spring and she foaled a healthy foal the next year. Then recently I bred a mare and while talking to another lady who breeds she told me her mare aborted shortly after giving it the pneumabort (sp) vaccine so she wasn't going to vaccinate with that the next time around. It got me thinking about the timing of my mare whose foal died years ago and I decided not to use the vaccine as well. I got a healthy foal last year. |
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Location: ND | Is the mare 5 panel clean & the stallion she was bred to? I had a mare abort back in November, had bred her to a really nice cow bred stud & we got his 5 panel results after breeding the mare, he was a GBED carrier. After my mare lost the foal I tested her, she also is a GBED carrier, so that is likely the reason she lost the foal. Only way to safely breed that particular mare is by breeding her to a clean stallion. |
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Location: Montana | This scares me a little about the Pneumabort vaccine now, as my mare is being bred this year (as a maiden) but thought the Pneumabort was supposed to prevent abortion caused by the EHV virus. The eColi scares me a bit too. I think I'm going to be a nervous wreck the entire time she is pregnant.  I take as good of care as I know how, and I have about the best repro vet in the area, so I'm confident I have good vet care, there are just so many "if's". Then I think about , horses have been pregnant and having foals for thousands of years, and my mare was born and every other mare and stud and gelding, so it is successful, so I think you have to trust nature and God too. Needless to say, I pray every single day that all goes well, and safely, and easily, and healthily, and smoothly for my mare and the foal...and she isn't bred yet for this year, we'll be going in next week for the first vet appt. for this spring.
Sorry, not trying to steal the thread, but I'm definitely watching.
Edited by mtcanchazer 2016-03-22 12:28 PM
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | Sold a royally bred mare to a friend a few years ago. They bred her and her maiden she foaled twins at 5 months, one almost perfice the other had been dead a while. Vet said, no reason not to bred back as this (they checked for twins at 14 days and removed 1, so there must have been 3) was not due to a problem with her.
Bread back and the mare aborted at 9 months a perfect foal. This time they went to a repo specialist and at first they found NO problems. Upon further invistigation and interview...they were feeding the mare tons of left over farm rejects...truck loads of corn, whole and the green parts, onions, lettuce. There is a name for this but I can't recall it. But they live where there is a lot of farming and the give away this stuff for cows. The Dad was trying to save money and was feeding it to the horses.
After finding all this out, it answered a lot of questions I had about some odd behavior issues with their other horses. Tieing up, suddenly having behavior issues that were not there before, weigh problems too fat and too thin, etc. . .
Vet asked them if they played the lottery, Dad asked why? Vet said I can not believe you have not killed all your horses not just the foals.
The gave time off, rebred and fed correctly and she foaled a beautiful colt last year.
Sometimes there may be some problems no one thinks to ask, or look for. Because of where they live no one had seen this going on and prior, no one was aware.
I'm not a breeder, but I might try 1 more time, then if it doesn't go well, not.
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