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Location: North texas | Would you buy a horse that has a subluxated si. If I am quoting that right. As diagnosed per my vet. Prob old and does track straight with both hind. This is a 3/4D (if that) confidence builder not a 1d horse. Vet was iffy on it. Said was a problem if they fell and reinjured it. Anyone dealt with this before? Any input appreciated. |
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I just read the headlines
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| If they were not asking very much for the horse and I absolutely loved the horse and had no problem keeping him if it flared up and couldn't be fixed, then yes. I typically am the person who buys one and it just stays at my house for the rest of it's life.  |
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Location: North Dakota | Bought one last year with an old SI injury.. Kind of the same story.. She's sound enough to keep using around the ranch here and there and pretty light riding. Could take her to a jackpot here or there and run her as long as she was in awesome shape. Needless to say she's a broodmare now... |
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Location: North texas | Yikes. That is my worry. |
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| I wouldn't do it. SI injuries, old or new, cause a lot of pain. I retired one last fall, because even injected and in top condition, he just had a lot of discomfort. He's a pretty pasture pet. |
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Sock Snob
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| if i did i would send her or him out for a month of aqatread and swimming |
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| If you really like the horse and don't mind maintaining it to keep it running, are realistic about the expectations, and know its career is limited. Go for it! Like you said, it's a confidence builder horse. At least you know what you're getting into and didn't find this out a couple years down the road.  |
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Location: North texas | I appreciate all the input! I am going to get my chiro to look at him too. I tend to fall in the trap over and over on buying horses that cost less but I end up spending more... ?? |
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Location: Canada | When you say 3D/4D is that at big races or against big names or is that at local races. If it's just local smaller races I'd pass and look for something else. Horses with SI injuries tend to require a lot of correct and balanced riding, as well as regular maintenance to remain sound.
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| RUN!!!
I don't care if the horse was free, I would pass. Spend the money on something sound, the maintenance will end up costing you more than the selling price.
My main horse has an old SI injury, had to sell everything else just to afford the maintenance on him. If I wasn't so emotionally attached he would be gone. The moment I start slipping on maintenance he will quit running good.
And when I say maintenance Im not just talking about yearly injections. I mean SI injections, corrective shoeing every 4 weeks, chiro, magnawave weekly, very specific exercise program. Its a lot of work and money. |
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The SI joint is not a ball and socket joint like the hip or shoulder joint, it is actually a FLAT joint which means the SACRUM attaches to the ILLIUM (hip) via strong and broad ligaments called the Sacroiliac Ligament. The first two pictures show the minimal clearance a horse has between it's pelvis and the sacrum, which keep in mind, the sacrum is basically the rudder of your horse - (when it goes down, it slows the forward momentum and raises the back for collection, and when it is up the hind legs can extend for a longer stride). So if you contemplate the side to side sheer of the SI area required when performing extended trot vs a collected lope, you will see why traditionally, SI injuries were mostly isolated to the race trotters who had to trot at 30 mph to win a race. This brings into question, how long should one spend on extended trot during an exercise session when training for maximum thrust propulsion at a gallop, such as what is required in rope horses, barrel horses, and other equine activities that require a strong two legged thrust off the mark? The sacrum does not move side to side, it only moves up and down, think about this and look at the pictures and decide for yourself the best way to exercise your horse. Strong SI ligaments are created by using them how nature intended, (up and down, not side to side) and weak SI ligaments are created by repetively forcing the sacrum to twist side to side within the limited confines of the tuber sacrales (highest points of the pelvis) which essentially pull and stretch the ligaments by the awkward sheering forces placed upon them by an unnaturally lengthy extended trot.
Edited by readytorodeo 2016-04-14 7:30 AM
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Location: Arizona | readytorodeo - 2016-04-15 6:28 AM
The SI joint is not a ball and socket joint like the hip or shoulder joint, it is actually a FLAT joint which means the SACRUM attaches to the ILLIUM (hip) via strong and broad ligaments called the Sacroiliac Ligament. The first two pictures show the minimal clearance a horse has between it's pelvis and the sacrum, which keep in mind, the sacrum is basically the rudder of your horse - (when it goes down, it slows the forward momentum and raises the back for collection, and when it is up the hind legs can extend for a longer stride). So if you contemplate the side to side sheer of the SI area required when performing extended trot vs a collected lope, you will see why traditionally, SI injuries were mostly isolated to the race trotters who had to trot at 30 mph to win a race. This brings into question, how long should one spend on extended trot during an exercise session when training for maximum thrust propulsion at a gallop, such as what is required in rope horses, barrel horses, and other equine activities that require a strong two legged thrust off the mark? The sacrum does not move side to side, it only moves up and down, think about this and look at the pictures and decide for yourself the best way to exercise your horse. Strong SI ligaments are created by using them how nature intended, (up and down, not side to side) and weak SI ligaments are created by repetively forcing the sacrum to twist side to side within the limited confines of the tuber sacrales (highest points of the pelvis) which essentially pull and stretch the ligaments by the awkward sheering forces placed upon them by an unnaturally lengthy extended trot.
Very good point to remember. This is precisely why I mostly "long lope" or slow gallop my horses vs long trotting when I need to put miles on one. 1/4 to a 1/2 mile is about as much long trotting as I will do. |
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| I would say no. Just for the fact that there are loads of other confidence builder horses out there that do not have SI injuries. Sooner or later it will catch up to the horse. The SI is the base for a horse to move. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | How much barrel racing are you planing to do with this horse if you did get it? If just a few times a month, I would say go for it but if your going to go heavy like a few times a week then no. To me it just depends on how much your going to run. |
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