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    Location: Deep South | After seeing all of the fantastic reviews on THE GastroPlus I decided to give it a try.
I did the 5 day loading dose. I did not ride/exercise for the first 10 days. The horse has alfalfa cubes in front of him all day long and is turned out on pasture at night. I am watching him to make sure he eats every bit of the GastroPlus.
I am currently at the end of week 2 and have seen absolutely no change. Not in his behavior or eating habits.
Those of you that have used GastroPlus, did it take longer than 2 weeks to see results? Did any of you not see results with GastroPlus, but had success with another product? |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Not every product works for every horse and is the reason THE has a money back guarantee.
I've had immediate results so I'm sorry it's not working for your horse. Hope you find something that does. |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | The only time I've had a THE product not work is when I didn't have the right diagnosis. I was treating a horse with a healed broken pastern for body soreness. I treated with Nutriwound for the symptoms related to healing a wound or bone. He didn't respond until I switched him to GastroPlus. It was his gut that needed help. He had been on bute for an extended period. His action and range of motion got better immediately after starting GP. Are you certain that he doesn't have something else going on?
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    Location: Deep South | OregonBR - 2016-05-06 12:18 PM
The only time I've had a THE product not work is when I didn't have the right diagnosis. I was treating a horse with a healed broken pastern for body soreness. I treated with Nutriwound for the symptoms related to healing a wound or bone. He didn't respond until I switched him to GastroPlus. It was his gut that needed help. He had been on bute for an extended period. His action and range of motion got better immediately after starting GP. Are you certain that he doesn't have something else going on?
He has not been scoped, so no, I'm not 100% certain that it's ulcers. But his symptoms do indicate ulcers.
When this horse arrived on my place there were obvious signs of mishandling. I could approach his head and he was fine, but approach anywhere from the shoulder back and he would nearly panic. I have worked a lot on getting him over this fear of people.
He is still a nervous horse in general. Will walk away from his food and come back to it throughout the day rather than stand there and eat it all. Is sensitive to touch through his ribcage and flank area.
Has been vetted and seen an equine dentist recently. |
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     Location: Oregon | It didn't work for me, but I was promptly refunded.
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-06 1:27 PM OregonBR - 2016-05-06 12:18 PM The only time I've had a THE product not work is when I didn't have the right diagnosis. I was treating a horse with a healed broken pastern for body soreness. I treated with Nutriwound for the symptoms related to healing a wound or bone. He didn't respond until I switched him to GastroPlus. It was his gut that needed help. He had been on bute for an extended period. His action and range of motion got better immediately after starting GP. Are you certain that he doesn't have something else going on? He has not been scoped, so no, I'm not 100% certain that it's ulcers. But his symptoms do indicate ulcers. When this horse arrived on my place there were obvious signs of mishandling. I could approach his head and he was fine, but approach anywhere from the shoulder back and he would nearly panic. I have worked a lot on getting him over this fear of people. He is still a nervous horse in general. Will walk away from his food and come back to it throughout the day rather than stand there and eat it all. Is sensitive to touch through his ribcage and flank area. Has been vetted and seen an equine dentist recently.
You have 45 days so just keep feeding up the bag and if nothing improves, let me know and I will get you a refund :) |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-05-06 4:57 PM BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-06 1:27 PM OregonBR - 2016-05-06 12:18 PM The only time I've had a THE product not work is when I didn't have the right diagnosis. I was treating a horse with a healed broken pastern for body soreness. I treated with Nutriwound for the symptoms related to healing a wound or bone. He didn't respond until I switched him to GastroPlus. It was his gut that needed help. He had been on bute for an extended period. His action and range of motion got better immediately after starting GP. Are you certain that he doesn't have something else going on? He has not been scoped, so no, I'm not 100% certain that it's ulcers. But his symptoms do indicate ulcers. When this horse arrived on my place there were obvious signs of mishandling. I could approach his head and he was fine, but approach anywhere from the shoulder back and he would nearly panic. I have worked a lot on getting him over this fear of people. He is still a nervous horse in general. Will walk away from his food and come back to it throughout the day rather than stand there and eat it all. Is sensitive to touch through his ribcage and flank area. Has been vetted and seen an equine dentist recently. You have 45 days so just keep feeding up the bag and if nothing improves, let me know and I will get you a refund :)
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| Had a mare treated for ulcers because I was SURE thats what she had, literally exact symptoms you described and anyone who would have met her would have been sure she was mishandled (excpet she wasnt) and I found out she was positive for PSSM type 2 after many misdiagnoses. Look up the symptoms, after changing her diet she is a totally different horse, no touchyness beyond her head, no longer a scardy cat personality, no more ulcer symptoms ect. And she is well bred, I just can't say the bloodlines yet but it's common racing/barrel bloodlines |
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    Location: Deep South | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-05-06 4:57 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-06 1:27 PM OregonBR - 2016-05-06 12:18 PM The only time I've had a THE product not work is when I didn't have the right diagnosis. I was treating a horse with a healed broken pastern for body soreness. I treated with Nutriwound for the symptoms related to healing a wound or bone. He didn't respond until I switched him to GastroPlus. It was his gut that needed help. He had been on bute for an extended period. His action and range of motion got better immediately after starting GP. Are you certain that he doesn't have something else going on? He has not been scoped, so no, I'm not 100% certain that it's ulcers. But his symptoms do indicate ulcers. When this horse arrived on my place there were obvious signs of mishandling. I could approach his head and he was fine, but approach anywhere from the shoulder back and he would nearly panic. I have worked a lot on getting him over this fear of people. He is still a nervous horse in general. Will walk away from his food and come back to it throughout the day rather than stand there and eat it all. Is sensitive to touch through his ribcage and flank area. Has been vetted and seen an equine dentist recently.
You have 45 days so just keep feeding up the bag and if nothing improves, let me know and I will get you a refund :)Β
Thank you Krystal. Regardless of whether or not it ends up working for this particular horse, your customer service has been exceptional from the start. |
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    Location: Deep South | cheeka77 - 2016-05-07 12:46 AM
Had a mare treated for ulcers because I was SURE thats what she had, literally exact symptoms you described and anyone who would have met her would have been sure she was mishandled (excpet she wasnt) and I found out she was positive for PSSM type 2 after many misdiagnoses. Look up the symptoms, after changing her diet she is a totally different horse, no touchyness beyond her head, no longer a scardy cat personality, no more ulcer symptoms ect. And she is well bred, I just can't say the bloodlines yet but it's common racing/barrel bloodlinesΒ
I will keep this in mind and do some reading. Thanks for sharing! |
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| You are recommended to give it a full 45 days (hence the refund day) to really see.
Ulcers can be tricky. I've had a lot of luck with it! Good luck! |
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        Location: somewhere up north | How long has this horse been at your place? Some horses just do not settle into a new place very quickly. We got a 21, now 22, year old gelding for my daughter last fall. He looked great when we got him. This horse had been hauled all over the country in his younger years at the top level, but has been at the same farm for about 8+ years and hasn't left the place for 4. He would do what your horse is doing. Eat, but not finish his food, and whether he was in a stall or out on pasture I could just tell he wasn't 100% comfortable. He lost some weight in his topline especially. He was getting all he could eat alfalfa (cause he won't eat grass hay), senior grain, tried alfalfa cubes, then went to pellets. Finally did a 10 day ulcer treatment and put him on gastroplex from MVP and he's been on their joint supplements too. He is a different horse now and looks amazing!! It's also been 6 months now. He loves to come in his stall. Has his routine. Loves his feed and his alfalfa pellets and we keep him on an ulcer supplement, joint and immune (cause we haul him too).
basically you might have to do a treament and then follow up with a supplement and know it just might take time for him to settle in and trust you and his environment. Which could take months...not 2 weeks or a month.
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    Location: California | My Arab mare had everyone even the vet convinced she had ulcers. I was about to suck it up and start the expensive treatment when on a whim I thought of her having a magnesium deficiency instead. Bought MagRestore instead and in one week I had a whole new horse. She no longer has any symptoms and is finally a happier horse that can finally hold weight. |
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        Location: Oklahoma | BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-07 7:38 AM
cheeka77 - 2016-05-07 12:46 AM
Had a mare treated for ulcers because I was SURE thats what she had, literally exact symptoms you described and anyone who would have met her would have been sure she was mishandled (excpet she wasnt) and I found out she was positive for PSSM type 2 after many misdiagnoses. Look up the symptoms, after changing her diet she is a totally different horse, no touchyness beyond her head, no longer a scardy cat personality, no more ulcer symptoms ect. And she is well bred, I just can't say the bloodlines yet but it's common racing/barrel bloodlinesΒ
I will keep this in mind and do some reading. Thanks for sharing!
I would have him tested for EPM, too....sometimes the first symptoms of it is extreme nervousness and body soreness. It might not be ulcers you're dealing with. |
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    Location: Deep South | Serenity06 - 2016-05-10 10:17 AM
My Arab mare had everyone even the vet convinced she had ulcers. I was about to suck it up and start the expensive treatment when on a whim I thought of her having a magnesium deficiency instead. Bought MagRestore instead and in one week I had a whole new horse. She no longer has any symptoms and is finally a happier horse that can finally hold weight.
Thank you for sharing.
I have gone back and read through all the symptoms for PSSM type 1 and 2, EPM, and for magnesium deficiency. I really don't believe he fits the criteria for PSSM or EPM. If he continues to not show improvement with ulcer treatment I will try the magnesium supplement, as that sounds the most like what I am dealing with. |
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     Location: IL | Did you try any kind of omeprazole on him before? That's how I always make sure it's ulcers. If they respond to omeprazole then it's stomach. Just an idea. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-10 10:12 AM Serenity06 - 2016-05-10 10:17 AM My Arab mare had everyone even the vet convinced she had ulcers. I was about to suck it up and start the expensive treatment when on a whim I thought of her having a magnesium deficiency instead. Bought MagRestore instead and in one week I had a whole new horse. She no longer has any symptoms and is finally a happier horse that can finally hold weight. Thank you for sharing. I have gone back and read through all the symptoms for PSSM type 1 and 2, EPM, and for magnesium deficiency. I really don't believe he fits the criteria for PSSM or EPM. If he continues to not show improvement with ulcer treatment I will try the magnesium supplement, as that sounds the most like what I am dealing with.
Here is a good read on Magnesium. http://performanceequinenutrition.com/magnesium-101/magnesium-mineral-superhero/ |
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    Location: Deep South | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-05-10 12:33 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-10 10:12 AM Serenity06 - 2016-05-10 10:17 AM My Arab mare had everyone even the vet convinced she had ulcers. I was about to suck it up and start the expensive treatment when on a whim I thought of her having a magnesium deficiency instead. Bought MagRestore instead and in one week I had a whole new horse. She no longer has any symptoms and is finally a happier horse that can finally hold weight. Thank you for sharing. I have gone back and read through all the symptoms for PSSM type 1 and 2, EPM, and for magnesium deficiency. I really don't believe he fits the criteria for PSSM or EPM. If he continues to not show improvement with ulcer treatment I will try the magnesium supplement, as that sounds the most like what I am dealing with.
Here is a good read on Magnesium. http://performanceequinenutrition.com/magnesium-101/magnesium-mineral-superhero/Β
That is the article I read also. The list of symptoms sound quite similar to what I'm experiencing with him.
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    Location: California | wyoming barrel racer - 2016-05-10 11:33 AM
BamaCanChaser - 2016-05-10 10:12 AM Serenity06 - 2016-05-10 10:17 AM My Arab mare had everyone even the vet convinced she had ulcers. I was about to suck it up and start the expensive treatment when on a whim I thought of her having a magnesium deficiency instead. Bought MagRestore instead and in one week I had a whole new horse. She no longer has any symptoms and is finally a happier horse that can finally hold weight. Thank you for sharing. I have gone back and read through all the symptoms for PSSM type 1 and 2, EPM, and for magnesium deficiency. I really don't believe he fits the criteria for PSSM or EPM. If he continues to not show improvement with ulcer treatment I will try the magnesium supplement, as that sounds the most like what I am dealing with.
Here is a good read on Magnesium. http://performanceequinenutrition.com/magnesium-101/magnesium-mineral-superhero/Β
I bought the MagRestore from Performance Equine after reading that article. Very knowledgeable people and easy to work with!
Now the gelding I never even considered having ulcers, is getting treated for them and improving greatly under saddle. Go figure. |
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| AfleetEquine - 2016-05-07 10:27 AM
You are recommended to give it a full 45 days (hence the refund day) to really see.
Ulcers can be tricky. I've had a lot of luck with it! Good luck!
You have to return it within the 45 days to get the refund. If you wait too long they will not refund you |
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