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Barrelhorsehelp1
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-05-12 5:35 PM
Subject: beet pulp vs alfalfa cubes




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just wondering what is better for weight? I've read lots of threads and post and there really isn't any one or the other answer.

so, what adds weight the best?
i was told beet pulp gives one more energy that alfalfa cubes but i also read.. why feed your horse something that you can leave in the barn for years and rats won't even eat. i also read beet pulp isn't a fattener its a filler, that if you stop feeding it your horse will loose the weight that the beet pulp made it look like he's gained?

i know alfalfa is good protein and good for ulcers but again i need what best weight wise. but will put the weight on quick.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-05-12 5:58 PM
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I tried beet pulp but didn't see any changes with the horses, but it did fill in a nervous show heifer's flanks. I get better results with the Omni cubes. With the show heifer, I eventually got her to gain weight when I feed her cooked oats and barley, if that helps at all.
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Barrelhorsehelp1
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-05-12 6:48 PM
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GLP - 2016-05-12 5:58 PM

I tried beet pulp but didn't see any changes with the horses, but it did fill in a nervous show heifer's flanks. I get better results with the Omni cubes. With the show heifer, I eventually got her to gain weight when I feed her cooked oats and barley, if that helps at all.

yes thats the same problem I'm having with a gelding, by no means is he under weight but his flanks aren't filled out at all. he has free choice hay and water 24-7
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2016-05-12 7:08 PM
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Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2016-05-12 6:48 PM

GLP - 2016-05-12 5:58 PM

I tried beet pulp but didn't see any changes with the horses, but it did fill in a nervous show heifer's flanks. I get better results with the Omni cubes. With the show heifer, I eventually got her to gain weight when I feed her cooked oats and barley, if that helps at all.

yes thats the same problem I'm having with a gelding, by no means is he under weight but his flanks aren't filled out at all. he has free choice hay and water 24-7

I have a young mare like that. I feed her Omni cubes, grass hay and Cur Ost Rejuvenate. The Cur Ost took care of the sucked up flanks. This mare has never been fat, but not ribby, just always sucked up in the flanks.
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2016-05-12 7:14 PM
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Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2016-05-12 6:48 PM
GLP - 2016-05-12 5:58 PM I tried beet pulp but didn't see any changes with the horses, but it did fill in a nervous show heifer's flanks. I get better results with the Omni cubes. With the show heifer, I eventually got her to gain weight when I feed her cooked oats and barley, if that helps at all.
yes thats the same problem I'm having with a gelding, by no means is he under weight but his flanks aren't filled out at all. he has free choice hay and water 24-7

You may be on the right track with what you're feeding...You just need to look at some digestive support.  We've recently started using OE Align and even my horses that I thought couldn't look better have bloomed!  
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Canchsr5
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2016-05-12 11:19 PM
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Have you had his teeth checked and floated? Almost every horse that I have had its teeth floated gained weight. I do my horses every spring. It's worth it.
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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2016-05-13 7:20 AM
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I agree with checking teeth but I suggest rice bran instead. Gave it to all three of my horses when I was in high school and they were all filled out and happy; one was a 20+ horse that had a rough life before she met me and in the four years I owned her four teeth fell out of her mouth and she did great with her weight on rice bran.
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Barrelhorsehelp1
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-05-13 9:33 AM
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Yes teeth have been done. And he isn't under weight by any means, just his flanks are sucked in and I want them filled out.
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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2016-05-13 10:18 AM
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either will be good but soak them .. and add more water.. I use both together 
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Panther14
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2016-05-13 12:51 PM
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I use both. 2/3 beet pulp, 1/3 alfalfa cubes/pellets. Make sure you soak it very thoroughly, I've had a few horses choke on it when it wasn't properly soaked.
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2016-05-13 2:06 PM
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Whole oats and alfalfa is like eating spaghetti steaks .......... you got the calories, protein and bloom all at the same time .... and a well balanced feed program ..

Beet pulp is trash from human food processing for sugar and it makes the body hold fluids to make it look like horse is fat ... yuck

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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2016-05-13 3:56 PM
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I feed both together.  Soaked

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Whinny19
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Posted 2016-05-13 8:43 PM
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Both have their benefits and can help put weight on one depending on the reason they're not gaining/maintainingΒ to begin with. Beet pulp is a good source of fiber, and a significant portion of that fiber is in the form of pectin (the stuff they add to jelly to make it... well... gel.... lol). Pectin is considered a prebiotic, which means the beneficial bacteria in the digestive tract (probiotics) like to eat it. So if a horse is unthrifty because there is an issue with the gut flora, beet pulp might help them gain weight. Quality alfalfa is an excellent source of protein and provides a fairly complete amino acid profile. So if the horse is lacking in protein, alfalfa can help them gain weight. You'll usually notice an overall lack of muscle tone & meat on the topline if they need more protein. Then you have your fats; rice bran, flax, vegetable oil, etc. Fat supplementation can also help with topline weight, coat health and overall "bloom." Personally, I like to feed a mixture of all of them if I have one that needs a little extra: soaked beet pulp, alfalfa pellets, vegetable oil, & a scoop of mineral supplement (I use Purina 12:12 loose minerals). I have put a lot of weight on horses in 6-8 weeks with this blend.
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Tdove
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2016-05-13 10:41 PM
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I think a good alfalfa cube is superior in every way to beet pulp. Much more cost effective as well (at least where I live). Alfalfa is a super food being high in almost all vitamins and minerals. Beet pulp is low in trace minerals, most vitamins, and selenium. It is also much worse in Ca:Ph than even alfalfa and is not long stem fiber. Combined with the dryness and extra time and effort to soak. I do not have any use for it in s feed program, because alfalfa is just so much better nutritionally.

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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2016-05-15 8:39 PM
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BOTH, I add soaked beet pulp to my feed every am and pm and I give my hard keeper half a bucket of soaked alfalfa cubes, they are not only good for weight but my mare didn't drink a lot so I added a lot of water to the cubes so she was getting hydrated at the same time.

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CanCan
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Posted 2016-05-16 7:45 AM
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Only bad chokes I've ever had were with soaked beet pulp. Never again. 
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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2016-05-16 8:47 AM
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CanCan - 2016-05-16 8:45 AM Only bad chokes I've ever had were with soaked beet pulp. Never again. 

I always add extra water... never had any issue with it on any horses..

the reason I told her as well to add extra water was because sometimes when horses are dehydrated their flanks get sucked up... that or ulcers will do this as well.. 
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