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Location: Missouri | Following. I've seen a lot of FB ads here lately, curious as well... |
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Porta Potty Pants
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| Never used it. But the same lady who I get my lame away from sells it and sees good results. |
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Location: West Texas | I have not used it but seems to be one of the best supplement oils on the market. Just not very cost effective. I am not bing on oil supplements, but if you are going to use one this is a good choice.
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| A gallon will last one horse two months and it cost $65 so basically a dollar per day. its great for those hard keepers and nervous type horses. They have serval dealers so it is better to go through a dealer than to order from the internet. We have been able to cut back the amount of grain we were feeding. Our broodmares look better than they have in years |
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Location: West Texas | That is very expensive. Comparison to the feed I use.
2 ounces serving of EOG ($1/day) = 0.5 Mcal and 2 ounces fat
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3.57 lbs of my feed ($1/day) = 3.75 Mcal and 2 ounces of fat
Conclusion, I can feed my feed which is the same cost and fat, while getting 7.5 times more calories. EOG offers no benefit in this analysis since my feed is also a high Omega 3 fat source. Plus, my feed is a source of many nutrients, vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants that oils alone cannot match. EOG is one of the best oils out there, I certainly agree on that. But it is not cost effective, as no oil supplement is. I believe it is better to get nutrients from the whole food sources oils are derived from. I don't see where EOG is better than flax seeds, except in natural vitamin E. |
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Porta Potty Pants
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| Thanks for all the replies ... My guy needs something. He's 15 and he is a nervous and anxious horse with a history of abuse. If he were a child, I would be convinced he would be diagnosed on the autism spectrum with some PTSD. I don't mean that as a joke or with any disrespect. He doesn't like to be touched in certain places but loves cookies and doesn't like to be alone. He is highly effected by food and supplements. For example, I've tried Platinum and MVP Exceed. The platinum made him very mean and aggressive. The MVP made him really flighty and anxious. Even senior type feeds have a negative effect. He was on Renew Gold but after taking him off, his behavior and attitude is much better. He's done well on alfalfa and bermuda and gets some bermuda pellets with his magnesium. But he needs something more. He doesn't look "poor" but he doesn't look shiny. When I saw the ads, they caught my interest. Thus, the question. Sorry for the book! |
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Location: Willows, CA | Tdove - 2016-05-16 9:18 AM
That is very expensive. Comparison to the feed I use.
2 ounces serving of EOG ($1/day) = 0.5 Mcal and 2 ounces fat
vs.
3.57 lbs of my feed ($1/day) = 3.75 Mcal and 2 ounces of fat
Conclusion, I can feed my feed which is the same cost and fat, while getting 7.5 times more calories. EOG offers no benefit in this analysis since my feed is also a high Omega 3 fat source. Plus, my feed is a source of many nutrients, vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants that oils alone cannot match. EOG is one of the best oils out there, I certainly agree on that. But it is not cost effective, as no oil supplement is. I believe it is better to get nutrients from the whole food sources oils are derived from. I don't see where EOG is better than flax seeds, except in natural vitamin E.
This it true. I do not recommend refined oils be added to the diet for a number of reasons. One is that most oils are solvent extracted. I also feel that feeding enough to make a significant contribution to the diet may effect the systems ability to absorb water soluble vitamins. In my opinion, vegetable fats in their natural form seem to be less disruptive to the digestive system. |
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| I use Equine Omega Complete, completely differ product. I've been on it for about 5 years and see tremendous results. Just hope everyone isn't confusing the two products. |
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Location: Willows, CA | azsun - 2016-05-16 10:42 AM
Thanks for all the replies ... My guy needs something. He's 15 and he is a nervous and anxious horse with a history of abuse. If he were a child, I would be convinced he would be diagnosed on the autism spectrum with some PTSD. I don't mean that as a joke or with any disrespect. He doesn't like to be touched in certain places but loves cookies and doesn't like to be alone. He is highly effected by food and supplements. For example, I've tried Platinum and MVP Exceed. The platinum made him very mean and aggressive. The MVP made him really flighty and anxious. Even senior type feeds have a negative effect. He was on Renew Gold but after taking him off, his behavior and attitude is much better. He's done well on alfalfa and bermuda and gets some bermuda pellets with his magnesium. But he needs something more. He doesn't look "poor" but he doesn't look shiny. When I saw the ads, they caught my interest. Thus, the question. Sorry for the book!
Renew Gold is formulated to significantly increase digestive efficiency through the whole digestive system. The low starch and sugar contribution normally has the opposite effect of what you describe. So, if taking him off of Renew Gold calmed him down, that would normally show that something else in his diet makes him hot when it was better digested. Removing the RG reduced how well he is digesting that ingredient, whatever it is, and calmed him down, but perhaps still not as stabile as he might be with a better overall diet. Better to find what in the diet is contributing to the behavior issues, rather than just take away what is helping his system digest the entire diet better. Sounds like you have a challenge. You can call if you would like to go over the entire diet. 530-934-9300.
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Location: West Texas | cowgirl1b - 2016-05-16 10:59 AM
I use Equine Omega Complete, completely differ product. I've been on it for about 5 years and see tremendous results. Just hope everyone isn't confusing the two products.
Aren't they basically identical products?
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| Equine Omega Complete is made from all--natural, GMO--free, mechanically expelled soybean oil with added human grade, deep water, wild caught fish oil. I haven't researched the other product, I just know Equine Omega complete has been on the market for a long time and has long term results that I've personally experienced. |
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Location: West Texas | I am taking back all of the statements I made above about recommending Equine Omega Gold or other Camelina oils. I have recently found out the information that Camelina meal and oil is not an FDA approved horse feed ingredient. It is not approved in Canada or Europe either. There is concerns over glucosinolates in the meal or oil. In fact, Camelina Meal, Extracted is obtained from processing Camelina sativa, which in the raw state, contains toxins: 9-Methylsulfinylnonyl glucosinolate, 10-Methylsulfinyldecyl glucosinolate, and 11-Methylsulfinylundecyl glucosinolate. I now would not feed Camelina oil and I am recommending others not either. |
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| Attached is the information
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 oil facts 1.pdf (77KB - 248 downloads)
oil facts 2.pdf (83KB - 242 downloads)
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| marsmarine - 2016-05-19 4:11 PM
Attached is the information
I have to admit without an explaination, that meant nothing to me. |
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| GLP - 2016-05-19 4:56 AM marsmarine - 2016-05-19 4:11 PM Attached is the information I have to admit without an explaination, that meant nothing to me.
lol same here |
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| Tdove - 2016-05-19 1:11 PM
I am taking back all of the statements I made above about recommending Equine Omega Gold or other Camelina oils. I have recently found out the information that Camelina meal and oil is not an FDA approved horse feed ingredient. It is not approved in Canada or Europe either. There is concerns over glucosinolates in the meal or oil. In fact, Camelina Meal, Extracted is obtained from processing Camelina sativa, which in the raw state, contains toxins: 9-Methylsulfinylnonyl glucosinolate, 10-Methylsulfinyldecyl glucosinolate, and 11-Methylsulfinylundecyl glucosinolate. I now would not feed Camelina oil and I am recommending others not either.
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| winwillows - 2016-05-16 11:06 AM
azsun - 2016-05-16 10:42 AM
Thanks for all the replies ... My guy needs something. He's 15 and he is a nervous and anxious horse with a history of abuse. If he were a child, I would be convinced he would be diagnosed on the autism spectrum with some PTSD. I don't mean that as a joke or with any disrespect. He doesn't like to be touched in certain places but loves cookies and doesn't like to be alone. He is highly effected by food and supplements. For example, I've tried Platinum and MVP Exceed. The platinum made him very mean and aggressive. The MVP made him really flighty and anxious. Even senior type feeds have a negative effect. He was on Renew Gold but after taking him off, his behavior and attitude is much better. He's done well on alfalfa and bermuda and gets some bermuda pellets with his magnesium. But he needs something more. He doesn't look "poor" but he doesn't look shiny. When I saw the ads, they caught my interest. Thus, the question. Sorry for the book!
Renew Gold is formulated to significantly increase digestive efficiency through the whole digestive system. The low starch and sugar contribution normally has the opposite effect of what you describe. So, if taking him off of Renew Gold calmed him down, that would normally show that something else in his diet makes him hot when it was better digested. Removing the RG reduced how well he is digesting that ingredient, whatever it is, and calmed him down, but perhaps still not as stabile as he might be with a better overall diet. Better to find what in the diet is contributing to the behavior issues, rather than just take away what is helping his system digest the entire diet better. Sounds like you have a challenge. You can call if you would like to go over the entire diet. 530-934-9300.
Win
He was on Renew Gold, alfalfa and bermuda for several years. He came with a diet of alfalfa and bermuda but I started running him more and needed something that didn't make him hot, thus Renew Gold. I was a big believer and still am but I don't think it works well for him. I will give it some thought and see how he progresses over the next few weeks and reach out if he still needs something. |
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