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| Hey folks,
Just had a vet out to evaluate my horse who seems to be sore in the hind end (not wanting to sit down in his turns anymore). I have another appointment now with a lameness specialist to evaluate further.
Here are the first vet's findings:
There are no palpable abnormalities. As he trots straight in hand, the pelvis in level and stride length appears even. However as he advances the LH limb he abducts it and swings it along. That movement does not seem typical for his conformation. He was negative bilateral to distal limb flexion. He was negative to LH upper hind limb and spavin. When I flexed the RH upper hind limb and spavin, he was off on the LH--less movement of the pelvis and more abduction of the limb.
We are thinking SI pain but he didn't respond to palpation.
Can't stop thinking about this and still have a few days until my next appointment. Anyone have any ideas or similar experiences? | |
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| I'll never not treat for EPM when there's a curious hind end lameness again. I almost lost my 5 year old puttering around for over a year thinking something was sore. He didn't test hot for it, didn't raise a single eye brow on blood test results. It was a last ditch effort on my part, because he was obviously on his way out and incredibly sore in the hind end and abnormal abduction, etc., in his gait. www.pathogenes.com
A couple months of treatment and physical rehab, we're making our long trip back to soundness. Just a thought.
Otherwise, xray hocks, stifles, spine (for KS), start blocking limbs, be sure to check the front feet and suspensories. My older gelding presents as not getting in the ground, etc when his front feet hurt, because he's trying to stay off his front by overcompensating with his hind end action. Really good chiropractic is a big deal, too. | |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | When you say he is swinging his leg... Do you mean he is swinging it out and then down?
If so check for fibrotic myopathy (Calicification of the muscle). My old boy had it when I was running him. Didn't bother him much unless his legs got cold after warm up. I really had to warm him up and keep him warm until we ran.
Sorry I am not much help.... Hugs to you and your horse!  | |
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| This is why I love BHW! I love hearing about other strange issues. :)
Yes, he swings it out and down. | |
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Location: WI | You need some X-Rays and an Ultrasound. I've never had much luck diagnosing lameness on palpations and blocks alone. | |
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| classicpotatochip - 2016-08-05 12:32 PM
I'll never not treat for EPM when there's a curious hind end lameness again. I almost lost my 5 year old puttering around for over a year thinking something was sore. He didn't test hot for it, didn't raise a single eye brow on blood test results. It was a last ditch effort on my part, because he was obviously on his way out and incredibly sore in the hind end and abnormal abduction, etc., in his gait. www.pathogenes.com
A couple months of treatment and physical rehab, we're making our long trip back to soundness. Just a thought.
Otherwise, xray hocks, stifles, spine (for KS), start blocking limbs, be sure to check the front feet and suspensories. My older gelding presents as not getting in the ground, etc when his front feet hurt, because he's trying to stay off his front by overcompensating with his hind end action. Really good chiropractic is a big deal, too.
I second at least having him tested for EPM.
My vet has a pretty simple set of tests before we treat or blood test further depending on the results. One's pretty simple - I walked the horse away from him in a straight line. He came up, grabbed the tail and pulled straight out to the side. Horse should step over and catch himself, if he's doesn't that a pretty good neurological symptom.
Probably need to head into a lameness expert who can do more than palpate.
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| OhMax - 2016-08-05 5:14 PM
classicpotatochip - 2016-08-05 12:32 PM
I'll never not treat for EPM when there's a curious hind end lameness again. I almost lost my 5 year old puttering around for over a year thinking something was sore. He didn't test hot for it, didn't raise a single eye brow on blood test results. It was a last ditch effort on my part, because he was obviously on his way out and incredibly sore in the hind end and abnormal abduction, etc., in his gait. www.pathogenes.com
A couple months of treatment and physical rehab, we're making our long trip back to soundness. Just a thought.
Otherwise, xray hocks, stifles, spine (for KS), start blocking limbs, be sure to check the front feet and suspensories. My older gelding presents as not getting in the ground, etc when his front feet hurt, because he's trying to stay off his front by overcompensating with his hind end action. Really good chiropractic is a big deal, too.
I second at least having him tested for EPM.
My vet has a pretty simple set of tests before we treat or blood test further depending on the results. One's pretty simple - I walked the horse away from him in a straight line. He came up, grabbed the tail and pulled straight out to the side. Horse should step over and catch himself, if he's doesn't that a pretty good neurological symptom.
Probably need to head into a lameness expert who can do more than palpate.
I probably won't ever test for it again beyond the simple and inexpensive test to get meds prescribed. Spent well over $500 in EPM testing alone and absolutely nothing set off alarm bells with several of the best vets in Texas and Oklahoma. Physical and blood. I can't talk about how much money I spent on treating lameness between the vetting, aquatread, and swimming. Special diets. Omg, it was a nightmare. Finally, finally getting a huge response to all physical rehab, but only after months of intensive EPM treatment.
Good treatment is available for less than extensive EPM testing, so I'll just treat from here out if something isn't making sense!
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