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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-23 12:16 PM
Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe


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FLITASTIC - 2015-02-23 11:27 AM

Got it. WHat about Fumonisin?

It is a type of mold
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MrsHound
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-02-23 12:18 PM
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My test results came back too....Yay!  So relieved!  Still will not feed it again tho, it is ran through the same machines as rumensin and something about that feed made them sick.  But very relieved it was no ionophores!!!!  



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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-02-23 1:17 PM
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SG. - 2015-02-23 10:16 AM

FLITASTIC - 2015-02-23 11:27 AM

Got it. WHat about Fumonisin?

It is a type of mold

Thanks! I assumed it was some other form of Monesin. lol
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-23 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe


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FLITASTIC - 2015-02-23 1:17 PM
SG. - 2015-02-23 10:16 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-02-23 11:27 AM Got it. WHat about Fumonisin?
It is a type of mold
Thanks! I assumed it was some other form of Monesin. lol

I googled it to know what it was... 
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-02-23 1:45 PM
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MrsHound - 2015-02-23 12:18 PM My test results came back too....Yay!  So relieved!  Still will not feed it again tho, it is ran through the same machines as rumensin and something about that feed made them sick.  But very relieved it was no ionophores!!!!  

The problem with this test is that it only tests to 1ppm.  Many of the issues that are coming up are from levels that are just below the 1ppm threshold.  The test results from the horses that are showing heart damage were 1.2ppm, .94ppm, and .43ppm of Monensin.  Trace amounts may not kill your horse, but they will make some horses very sick and can cause permanent damage.
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MrsHound
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-02-23 1:48 PM
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rachellyn80 - 2015-02-23 12:45 PM
MrsHound - 2015-02-23 12:18 PM My test results came back too....Yay!  So relieved!  Still will not feed it again tho, it is ran through the same machines as rumensin and something about that feed made them sick.  But very relieved it was no ionophores!!!!  
The problem with this test is that it only tests to 1ppm.  Many of the issues that are coming up are from levels that are just below the 1ppm threshold.  The test results from the horses that are showing heart damage were 1.2ppm, .94ppm, and .43ppm of Monensin.  Trace amounts may not kill your horse, but they will make some horses very sick and can cause permanent damage.

Well that is not very reassuring...How do you get them to test for less?  I paid $110 for that test 
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-02-23 2:26 PM
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MrsHound - 2015-02-23 1:48 PM
rachellyn80 - 2015-02-23 12:45 PM
MrsHound - 2015-02-23 12:18 PM My test results came back too....Yay!  So relieved!  Still will not feed it again tho, it is ran through the same machines as rumensin and something about that feed made them sick.  But very relieved it was no ionophores!!!!  
The problem with this test is that it only tests to 1ppm.  Many of the issues that are coming up are from levels that are just below the 1ppm threshold.  The test results from the horses that are showing heart damage were 1.2ppm, .94ppm, and .43ppm of Monensin.  Trace amounts may not kill your horse, but they will make some horses very sick and can cause permanent damage.
Well that is not very reassuring...How do you get them to test for less?  I paid $110 for that test 

Different labs have different testing abilities.  Dr. Blakely recommended to me to have a lab with LC/Mass Spec capabilities confirm the values. My tests were done by OADDL, the lab at OSU in Stillwater, OK.  They sent one sample to UC Davis to have it verified, because it showed Lasalocid as well as Monensin.
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MrsHound
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-02-23 3:57 PM
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rachellyn80 - 2015-02-23 1:26 PM
MrsHound - 2015-02-23 1:48 PM
rachellyn80 - 2015-02-23 12:45 PM
MrsHound - 2015-02-23 12:18 PM My test results came back too....Yay!  So relieved!  Still will not feed it again tho, it is ran through the same machines as rumensin and something about that feed made them sick.  But very relieved it was no ionophores!!!!  
The problem with this test is that it only tests to 1ppm.  Many of the issues that are coming up are from levels that are just below the 1ppm threshold.  The test results from the horses that are showing heart damage were 1.2ppm, .94ppm, and .43ppm of Monensin.  Trace amounts may not kill your horse, but they will make some horses very sick and can cause permanent damage.
Well that is not very reassuring...How do you get them to test for less?  I paid $110 for that test 
Different labs have different testing abilities.  Dr. Blakely recommended to me to have a lab with LC/Mass Spec capabilities confirm the values. My tests were done by OADDL, the lab at OSU in Stillwater, OK.  They sent one sample to UC Davis to have it verified, because it showed Lasalocid as well as Monensin.

I sent the lab an email...Just wish this was over and I could be done worrying :-(  Never again will I feed a pelleted or processed feed 
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amyliz
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2015-02-23 9:37 PM
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I am very late to the conversation, but I did read the first several pages.
Can someone please give me the short list of feeds that are safe to feed horses? Ie, not produced in a mill that uses monensin in any way?
Thank y'all.
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-23 9:58 PM
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amyliz - 2015-02-23 9:37 PM I am very late to the conversation, but I did read the first several pages. Can someone please give me the short list of feeds that are safe to feed horses? Ie, not produced in a mill that uses monensin in any way? Thank y'all.

 there is another thread called ionophore free feed that has them listed
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MrsHound
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-02-25 6:30 AM
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This is the response I recieved from the lab:  

  
Although our instrumentation has the capability of “seeing” below 1 ppm for each of the ionophores we test for, we do not report out to these lower limits. I recognize the concern over horses consuming feed tainted with trace amounts of ionophores – there is a lot of press covering these stories right now; however, it would take sufficiently more drug to create a problem for your horse and I would be reluctant to advise you otherwise. Please consider the report that you have received as a “negative” finding and assurance that the supplier of this feed has done due diligence to provide a clean product.

I feel confident my horses are fine and am going to let myself quit worrying about this.  I have switched to whole oats and feel like this was a very eye opening experience.  I am glad to have been made aware of this problem with feed before it became a problem for my horses. Thanks for this topic and all the information!



 
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-02-25 1:18 PM
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MrsHound - 2015-02-25 6:30 AM This is the response I recieved from the lab:  



  
Although our instrumentation has the capability of “seeing” below 1 ppm for each of the ionophores we test for, we do not report out to these lower limits. I recognize the concern over horses consuming feed tainted with trace amounts of ionophores – there is a lot of press covering these stories right now; however, it would take sufficiently more drug to create a problem for your horse and I would be reluctant to advise you otherwise. Please consider the report that you have received as a “negative” finding and assurance that the supplier of this feed has done due diligence to provide a clean product.



I feel confident my horses are fine and am going to let myself quit worrying about this.  I have switched to whole oats and feel like this was a very eye opening experience.  I am glad to have been made aware of this problem with feed before it became a problem for my horses. Thanks for this topic and all the information!







 

Which company gave you this response?
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MrsHound
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-02-25 4:22 PM
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rachellyn80 - 2015-02-25 12:18 PM
MrsHound - 2015-02-25 6:30 AM This is the response I recieved from the lab:  



  
Although our instrumentation has the capability of “seeing” below 1 ppm for each of the ionophores we test for, we do not report out to these lower limits. I recognize the concern over horses consuming feed tainted with trace amounts of ionophores – there is a lot of press covering these stories right now; however, it would take sufficiently more drug to create a problem for your horse and I would be reluctant to advise you otherwise. Please consider the report that you have received as a “negative” finding and assurance that the supplier of this feed has done due diligence to provide a clean product.



I feel confident my horses are fine and am going to let myself quit worrying about this.  I have switched to whole oats and feel like this was a very eye opening experience.  I am glad to have been made aware of this problem with feed before it became a problem for my horses. Thanks for this topic and all the information!







 
Which company gave you this response?

It wasnt a feed company, it was from the lab my vet sent the sample to: 
Diagnostic Center for Population and Animal Health
Michigan State University

They were never told the feed company the sample came from, so there is no bias there
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Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-03-01 11:13 AM
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Posted 2015-03-03 11:43 AM
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We just received the second test results back from my triple crown senior. It showed excessive high sulphur content. According to OSU, there is not a lot of information about Sulphur toxicity, however they believe this is what caused the issues with my guy.  
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-03-03 11:56 AM
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Run n on faith - 2015-03-03 9:43 AM

We just received the second test results back from my triple crown senior. It showed excessive high sulphur content. According to OSU, there is not a lot of information about Sulphur toxicity, however they believe this is what caused the issues with my guy.  

I guess the good news is, excessive Sulfer is better than Monesin.
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jake16
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Posted 2016-01-19 7:53 PM
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Bumpin back up because I see people feeding or asking about certain feeds lately and this thread is just an awsome wealth of info
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jake16
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Posted 2016-08-17 9:40 AM
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bumping because im looking for info and a certain post from the company of tribute on here
 
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Posted 2016-08-18 1:24 AM
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