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| Theses are actually combination bits. I am not a big fan, however, I have and love a Don Wasson combo with a tiny shank called a teardrop combo which is a nice bit. Well balanced and puts equal pressure in mouth and nose. |
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| streakysox - 2016-09-18 9:59 PM
Theses are actually combination bits. I am not a big fan, however, I have and love a Don Wasson combo with a tiny shank called a teardrop combo which is a nice bit. Well balanced and puts equal pressure in mouth and nose.
I have the same one and yeah, it's about the only one I like.
I find they get used a lot to cover up holes in training because they can be a lot of bit and cover a lot of pressure points. They work for a while until the poor training starts to show through.
I am riding one horse in a myler Neil Merrill with a smooth mouth and barrel center. He really likes the mouthpiece and a friend loaned me this one to try since I only have a snaffle and a long shank bit in that mouthpiece. The noseband is pretty loose, I have it adjusted that way on purpose because when I did try the Wasson on him he got very heavy. So far so good. If I end up buying one I'll probably just cut the nose off. |
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Location: Northwest | OhMax - 2016-09-19 3:48 AM
streakysox - 2016-09-18 9:59 PM
Theses are actually combination bits. I am not a big fan, however, I have and love a Don Wasson combo with a tiny shank called a teardrop combo which is a nice bit. Well balanced and puts equal pressure in mouth and nose.
I have the same one and yeah, it's about the only one I like.
I find they get used a lot to cover up holes in training because they can be a lot of bit and cover a lot of pressure points. They work for a while until the poor training starts to show through.
I am riding one horse in a myler Neil Merrill with a smooth mouth and barrel center. He really likes the mouthpiece and a friend loaned me this one to try since I only have a snaffle and a long shank bit in that mouthpiece. The noseband is pretty loose, I have it adjusted that way on purpose because when I did try the Wasson on him he got very heavy. So far so good. If I end up buying one I'll probably just cut the nose off.
I'm using a two ring, low port Myler with a noseband on one mare and I really like it. I tried the Neil Merrill in a couple different mouthpiece/shank options before settling on this one and this particular mare hated the Merrill.
Another bit I really like is the Don Wasson o-ring with a noseband. |
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Location: sunny california | i have used combination bits and it wasn't because of holes in training, it was to find a spot that wasn't messed up already. I don't think they are a good idea for the average rider though. you end up using all the points of pressure and can really mess a horse up. There is nothing left to use after one is messed up with some of these bits. i like the nose band for horses off the track at least for a little while. If you are using them right you should be able to graduate out of them, not move up to bigger. |
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| The reason I do not like these bits is that so many people use them instead of getting the horse broke and all the basics covered. After many years of training I have found that less is more. Breaking the horse and teaching the basics allows you to use something like a jr cowhorse or other very light bit. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The only one I have is a Hodges Futurity with a chain mouth.. |
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Location: Way up North | To me saying they are just a cover up is just like saying any type of shank or gag bit is a cover up and we should all just ride in snaffles. Like all bits they work and are great for some horses and riders and not so much for others.
I personally like the Hodges Futurity with a dog bone mouth. It has lift and nose but there isn't really much shank and most seem to like it. |
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Location: Phoenix | I also like the Hodges futurity.
But prefer a rope nose hackamore instead. |
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| quirks streakysox - 2016-09-19 10:12 AM
The reason I do not like these bits is that so many people use them instead of getting the horse broke and all the basics covered. After many years of training I have found that less is more. Breaking the horse and teaching the basics allows you to use something like a jr cowhorse or other very light bit.
I'll agree and add that any truely broke and finished horse should run the pattern in anything. BUT some ppl hand's and riding skill require them to have a bit like this because they get the horse unbroke or unresponsive by hanging on their face. Some horses also get have some funny quirks when it comes to an actual run requiring you to have different bits. I like a Kathy James long for a run and the short shank variation of it for at home riding with my hands. Bottom line is that it's whatever works for the horse and rider combo.
I kno of one horse out running everyone on the east coast (and a few months ago the TX/OK area) that when rode by the person that tunes him is in a short shank bit with a hex mouth but the same horse rode by his owner is in a steel nose hack we jokingly call the alpo bit LOL Its whatever works for the hands and skill ability of the rider. |
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Location: Pelham, TN | The Green Futurity Special SC-25 is one of the most popular combinations out there. It is made by Shallow Creek Bits and has been around since 1987!!! Still going strong! |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Not sure what it's called or who made it but I have a Wonder Gag with a rope noseband and I use it on my mare occasionally. She has no holes in training but I like how collected she is while wearing it. I use it in grand entries, parades or when I ride double with a child. Makes her pay attention and I can ride with a very loose rein.
She wears just a regular wonder gag without a noseband if we're roping or at a practice because I tend to hold on to her face after a catch and I don't even realize it. I can't imagine what she would do if I rode her in the noseband one and grabbed her face after a catch. She would probably hate me for life. LOL
She works very well in a wonder gag and I haven't figured out why yet. But if it ain't broke, I'm not gonna fix it!  |
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