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Location: Central Texas | Six year old gelding now into week 3 at Elgin Vet Hospital for salmonella after going in for colic. He also came down with strep and some bacteria tracheal and lung infection while there. Whew!
Today's report is the best one, so far. No diarrhea since yesterday evening and no fever. He nickered to the vets this morning and demanded feed. He has NOT been eating much, previously. So, I'm believing he is pulling through.
Questions: What to expect when he comes home? Does a horse become sensitive to the salmonella and get sick again easily? He is the only one of nine in the same pasture and pens that got this. I know he needs to be seperated from the herd when he comes home, but for how long? When is it safe to haul him?
The vets will give me a lot of info, and I'd like to here from those of you in the know. Please share!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Oh wow, poor fella. Do you know how he got salmonella? Never had this happen so cant tell you anything, but I sure would be worry about putting him back in the same pasture where he may have picked it up.. |
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Location: Central Texas | The vet said that it is pretty common around here and it seems to come mostly from migratory birds. Interestingly, our place has become a haven for whitewing doves since we don't hunt them. They moved in about a month ago. Maybe? idk.
I'm a bit aprehensive about putting him back in the same environment.
Poor guy has been through a lot. After all this, he better live! |
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| I have dealt with both Samonella and e. Coli. The best thing you can do is get him on Full Bucket probiotics when you get him home. I did not have this option the first two go rounds, but it was instrumental in helping my horse last year. As soon as he physically recovered his weight and energy, Kinsey was riding him. We were hauling him within a month, but not running. This one lives in solitary confinement anyway so I did not ask about quarantine times. |
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | My prayers to you!
I had it go through my goats and lost all three of them. The vet said probably birds. |
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Location: Central Texas | Thanks y'all.
Tia, I had never heard of Full Bucket and googled it. Thank you |
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| Are you feeding grain? When I went grain free the birds left for the most part. I also water twice a day to keep them out of my water tanks so they have to go to the creek or some one else's yard for water. Hope you're horse has a speedy recovery. |
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Location: Central Texas | GLP - 2016-10-06 12:28 PM Are you feeding grain? When I went grain free the birds left for the most part. I also water twice a day to keep them out of my water tanks so they have to go to the creek or some one else's yard for water. Hope you're horse has a speedy recovery.
He was in a pen since he is a pot stirrer and always gets beat up. He was getting alfalfa cubes and pellets, Renew Gold and beet pulp. Birds sure might be attracted to that. I had not thought of the water trough even though I thought about the two stock tanks that he does not have access to. Very good points.
Thank you for the wellness wish! |
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| It's a rough path. My husband's mare had it starting last Thanksgiving. We took her to ESMS in Weatherford. She stayed in ICU for 3 days there. Brought her home Thursday. Saturday it took 2 - 10cc shots of Banimine to keep her standing. Went to another vet due to the distance we live from ESMS, where she stayed on IV fluids for 3 weeks. She finally turned the corner and we were able to bring her home. Had to keep her separated from every one for a while. We bleached everything!!! The barn, stalls, runs, trailer, shoes, clothes, yard, grass area, and everything in between. It was rough!!! She did better when we got her home. She started drastically improving when she got home. She lost 300-400 lbs during this time. We put it back on slowly and watch her like a hawk. Good luck and many prayers for your horse to improve!!! |
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Location: Central Texas | flyingcolors, sorry about your goats. It sure is easy to get attached to them.
barrelrider, sure glad your husband's mare got alright. That's tough getting one recovered from that much weight loss!
I appreciate y'all's input. |
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| Marfan - 2016-10-06 12:17 PM Thanks y'all. Tia, I had never heard of Full Bucket and googled it. Thank you
Our Board Buddy SG. sent me a care package with Knotthead got e. Coli last year. I think it made a huge difference in his recovery. |
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Location: So. Cali. | My gelding fought salmonella last November. We thought it was colic but eventually had to rush him to the hospital to find out it was colitis and salmonella. Alot of horses 'have' salmonella, it just sometimes doesnt get 'triggered to shed'. Stress or other illnesses can cause it to shed. When the horse is shedding it they are most contagious. When he returns home he will need to be quantined until he passes 5 negative Salmonella tests over a length ot time. My gelding was seperate for 3 months while we retested. And yes, under stressful situations, it is my understanding he could 'shed' it again down the road. |
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Location: So. Cali. | This was the thread that was started on my boy last November
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=467101&start=1&highlight=Salmonella&highlightmode=2
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Location: Willows, CA | My understanding is thankfully limited as far as personal experience goes. I have worked with Salmonella horses though. As stated, there are a number of causes. The most common is bird droppings. A number of years ago there was a problem in California with hay cubes that had ground up contaminated animals, (rabbits as I recall) that came in bailed hay that the cubes were made from. I am also familiar with a case that started in a Texas Vet Clinic. The comment that it can be in horses and not manifest itself is true. My understanding is that it can store in fat cells and be accumulative over time and additional exposure. In any case, it is bad news and many horses do not survive. The statement above that isolation until repeated clear testing is required is accurate and proper.
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Thanks for the link. Good reading! |
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