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| OK! I have never done this before and would like some advice from everyone! I am so busy working 2 full time Jobs in Nursing school and now have a back injury. I have an amazing 1d pro rodeo horse that is just sitting now and not doing anything. I do not want to sale him because I know within the next 6 months I will be able to get back at it. I have considered leasing him out. I have talked to a girl that is wanting to use him for a high school rodeo barrel horse. This to me sounds perfect! However I have herd horror stories about leasing out a horse. How do I go about writing up a contract for this such as what should I put in the contract? What is a proper rate monthly for this caliber of a horse to be leased out? He would be leaving my facility and staying at hers. I told her I want to see her facility first as well as wanting references from people such as her high school rodeo couch. I all ready have the horse insured as is do I need her to insure him as well on her end? Any advice is appreciated! I just don't want my horse to come back re trained to someone else's ability or worse hurt even though I do understand accidents happen! |
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| If you don't want the horse to come back a wreck, don't lease him out. Rarely do leases have a happy ending when dealing with teenagers especially.
If you are determined to lease, I'd find a good equine attorney to write the contract up. |
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Go Get Em!
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Location: OH. IO | Dont do it. Just give him a six month break as well. Contracts mean NOTHING unless you can afford an attorney. I just would NOT risk it at all.. |
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 Goat Giver
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| I've been on the other side. Once I needed more of a challenge than my first horse, we started leasing as my sister was still riding our old man, and my parents didn't want to own more than one. Leased four or five with a variety of agreements.
I owe a lot of my riding experience to those horses. I will say with the exception of 1 that most weren't high dollar finished horses, most needed some work and were rough around the edges. I will say this was in the hunter/jumper world where I feel leases are far more common.
However I totally understand the hesitation. If you want him to stay in work, is it possible to find someone at your facility where you can keep an eye on him?
Or a few months off, I think they do benefit from a nice break like that. |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | OhMax - 2016-11-05 8:01 AM
I've been on the other side. Once I needed more of a challenge than my first horse, we started leasing as my sister was still riding our old man, and my parents didn't want to own more than one. Leased four or five with a variety of agreements.
I owe a lot of my riding experience to those horses. I will say with the exception of 1 that most weren't high dollar finished horses, most needed some work and were rough around the edges. I will say this was in the hunter/jumper world where I feel leases are far more common.
However I totally understand the hesitation. If you want him to stay in work, is it possible to find someone at your facility where you can keep an eye on him?
Or a few months off, I think they do benefit from a nice break like that.
That ole Professor Plum taught you a lesson, or two, eh?? Lol |
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Veteran
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| I have done this and would not do it again.. I now have a fantastic horse as a pasture ornament. Unless you know how the horse is taken care of day to day and when it is hauled...DO NOT do it. Remember it's not their horse therefore there is not the attachment there that you have....they are paying to USE it and USE it they will..... Also from observing a lot of Hugh school rodeos, there is a real lack of horsemanship skills among a lot of the kids. Focus is on the win. Just my opinion. |
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Location: Illinois | Don't do it. Way toooo many risks.. let your horse have a 6 month vacation!
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  Witty Enough
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Location: CTX | I wouldn't do it. You say it might be 6 months or so before you have time again. Just let him rest and be a horse for that time. If you can, put him in a pasture and enjoy hanging out with him when you can.
Even with a contract things happen, and even if people own up to the contract you are out of a good horse. And it takes a lot to get one back like that. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Your taking a big risk leasing out your horse, I think if you run horse quite a bit, a six month break would be good for him.  |
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Expert
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| I wouldn't do it either.. Let him have a break.. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Leases very seldom work out good, I wouldn't even consider it on something with much value at all. |
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| Will be picking up a gelding that I leased out to a girl in another state. It has worked out great. They paid the insurance on him, did all the maint. and sent me receipts to provide verification, sent pics regularly(I did not request but they were just as worried about making sure they were doing everything correctly as I was that they would).
I did request videos of performances, this was because I can see in a competition run if something is going on. He ducked the third barrel with her in one performance and I was able to address it with them and we figured out what was going on before it became an issue.
Talk with the people that want to lease him. It was a comfortable decision for me, they asked me tons of questions and asked what they needed to get ready for him, his feeding schedule, etc. They were so proactive about it, I trusted that they would do good by him and they have!
I got both parents work info(phone, address), home address, vets address and number, copy of the insurance and because it was a lease and set up in the insurance with my name, I was able to call and verify payments being made.
I have another gelding that someone is doing a trial period on, they've been making the payments on the insurance. I dropped him off with them, been over a view times to check on him and help, and so far so good.
I know there are horror stories out there, but do your homework, talk extensively with them, and make sure they understand the risks that you and them hold by doing it. If they don't seem just as concerned as you do, I would think twice.
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 Independent Cuss
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Location: Dearing, GA | Have you considered asking her to just leg him up? Maybe give him a few months off, then a month or two out from you being able to return, ask her to start riding him to keep him fit? It will benefit you both- you get a horse in shape without worrying about where he's going or how she's running him, and she gets to sit on a pro-caliber horse. |
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 Owner of a ratting catting machine
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| Nopity nopity nooo.
6 months ain't nuthin'. |
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 Famous for Not Complaining
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Nope........and yes there are good people out there but any horse can have a career ending injury....and then you are stuck with a pasture ornament with possible long term vet bills.......just not worth the risk..... |
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| WrapSnap - 2016-11-05 9:08 AM
OhMax - 2016-11-05 8:01 AM
I've been on the other side. Once I needed more of a challenge than my first horse, we started leasing as my sister was still riding our old man, and my parents didn't want to own more than one. Leased four or five with a variety of agreements.
I owe a lot of my riding experience to those horses. I will say with the exception of 1 that most weren't high dollar finished horses, most needed some work and were rough around the edges. I will say this was in the hunter/jumper world where I feel leases are far more common.
However I totally understand the hesitation. If you want him to stay in work, is it possible to find someone at your facility where you can keep an eye on him?
Or a few months off, I think they do benefit from a nice break like that.
That ole Professor Plum taught you a lesson, or two, eh?? Lol
He may have...his people may have too :)
I believe he is still in my area, retired to pasture.
Ps: it IS easier now that I can drink legally!  Told you so :-p |
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 Too Skinny
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | Instead, I would hire someone to keep him in shape and ready for you. |
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