casualdust07 - 2017-01-04 11:13 AM

People used to complain that FF was an insider "club" where people who had connections could get their stallion in when others had to wait 5 years or whatever on the wait list. Those same people now complain that FF is open to everyone.. Which I mean, if I had to wait 5 years to get into a club and then now that I'm in everyone else gets to come in too, I would probably be a little upset over it. But, I also think that's a bit childish to want to stay exclusive now that you're in the "club" since it was hard for you to get in and now your friends can get in without waiting.


As a mare owner and breeder, I am thrilled that it is open for everyone now. There were times when I scrolled and scrolled on the FF website looking for something new or fresh.


Some stallion owners have complained that after having joined FF, their books haven't increased at all. But in my opinion, FF is only one part of what makes a stallion desirable.

wyoming barrel racer - 2017-01-04 3:21 PM I can answer 2 questions asked here, I just read a lot of what the FF founder put on facebook. It says in the first post when you can enroll new stallions-Nomination dates for NEW Stallions only will be from March 15 - May 15 of the year prior to enrollment.



And once you enroll a stallion, if you choose to let him drop out, you can NEVER re enroll him. So that won't be an issue. There will be kinks to any program, but this will eliminate the BS that came with the waiting list. I saw more and more yearlings- coming 2 yr olds newly enrolled at the same time  I saw friends with stallions waiting 10+ yrs. The stallion list kept growing...and even though I know a "few" people dropped out, not enough to watch #'s grow with youngsters when others waited a decade to get in.



I said it on facebook, this isn't going to change much. You'll have every Tom Dick & Harry enroll their stallion. Some will be good, some not so much. Many will drop when they aren't seeing an increase in mares coming to their romeo. The point is this!! If a stallion isn't already manly enough to get a full book of mares, enrolling him in incentives will not help. The point of incentives is to make it worth it to those people that are paying high stud fees and paying top dollar for those babies, to have a way to win some of that back (FF, Breeders Futurities etc). 

Whiteboy - 2017-01-04 9:40 AM

You can enroll any stallion that has at least 25 registered babies and you are willing to pay $2,800 each year.  

appycans - 2017-01-04 4:38 PM Does this mean that they can pay $2800 and finally get DTF enrolled?

BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-01-04 4:36 PM


READ IT AGAIN ....

25 MARES COVERED ON STALLIONS ENTIRE LIFE TIME BREEDING REPORT ...

NOMINATION IS THIS YEAR 2017
(this gives FF time to setup up new stallion list for 2018 with
normal grandfather clauses)
AND OFFICIAL ENROLLMENT WILL HAPPEN IN 2018 ...

SO THERE IS NO CONFUSION OR WHO IS NEW AND ALREADY ENROLLED
... ONLY THE NEW STALLIONS NOMINATION
FORM WILL BE ON FF SITE.. LATER THIS MONTH ....FOR YEAR OF 2017 FOR ENROLLEMENT IN 2018............ ((THEY LEFT OFF THE ... LATER..... THIS MONTH ..))

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AS WRITTEN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>........
* Stallion must provide official Stallion Reports showing 25 mares have been COVERED ( NOT per year or foals registered )
* Nomination dates for NEW Stallions only will be from March 15 - May 15 of the year prior to enrollment.
* New Stallion only nomination form will be on the FF website this month.
***********************************************************

I always cringe when announcements are made before the old rules are changed and new forms are not posted !! (with examples of filled in forms)

Once this new pool of stallions is fully enrolled in 2018 ... I would expect FF to consolidate their side pots AND STOP ALLOWING owners to buy into them and to start running some FUTURE FORTUNE FUTURITIES, DERBIES and 5D JACKPOTS under the FUTURE FORTUNES NAME EXCLUSIVELY FOR FF FOALS ....

WITH THE SIMPLE RULE ... TO EARN FF MONEY YOU MUST RUN THE PATTERN TO EARN ANY FF MONEY!!