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Location: East Tennessee | What are some good cow/reining bloodlines that cross well on running bloodlines? |
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Location: East Tennessee | Has anyone crossed Jets Pay Day or Bugs Alive In 75 with cow bred bloodlines? |
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| In this market I'd bred for barrels specifically as much as I could. It is hard enough to sale one.
Traditionally BA 75 is a broodmare sire along with Shawne Bug, Jet of Honor, and Bully Bullion. But since your stud is BA 75 I'd try to find as many streakin six bred mares as possible to cross him with bc it has proven to be a nice cross with BA 75 daughters.
IF I were to bred to a cow bred mare I'd find one that was a proven 1D mare herself or was a proven producer. Might look into Paddys Irish Whiskey daughters so you could market towards the roping crowd but I'd try to stay barrels as much as possible for marketability. |
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| Not exactly reining/cow but Sunfrost has crossed well on BA75. |
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Location: East Tennessee | astreakinchic - 2017-02-03 9:14 AM
In this market I'd bred for barrels specifically as much as I could. It is hard enough to sale one.
Traditionally BA 75 is a broodmare sire along with Shawne Bug, Jet of Honor, and Bully Bullion. But since your stud is BA 75 I'd try to find as many streakin six bred mares as possible to cross him with bc it has proven to be a nice cross with BA 75 daughters.
IF I were to bred to a cow bred mare I'd find one that was a proven 1D mare herself or was a proven producer. Might look into Paddys Irish Whiskey daughters so you could market towards the roping crowd but I'd try to stay barrels as much as possible for marketability.
Most of our mares are Streakin Six with the exception of a BA75 mare, Jet's Pay Day mare and a Peppy San Badger mare.  |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | astreakinchic - 2017-02-03 8:14 AM
In this market I'd bred for barrels specifically as much as I could. It is hard enough to sale one.
Traditionally BA 75 is a broodmare sire along with Shawne Bug, Jet of Honor, and Bully Bullion. But since your stud is BA 75 I'd try to find as many streakin six bred mares as possible to cross him with bc it has proven to be a nice cross with BA 75 daughters.
IF I were to bred to a cow bred mare I'd find one that was a proven 1D mare herself or was a proven producer. Might look into Paddys Irish Whiskey daughters so you could market towards the roping crowd but I'd try to stay barrels as much as possible for marketability.
I disagree, I just sold 3 cow/run and 2 all cow/working/cutting bred horses in a row, my straight running bred mare (packing sixes, track bred) sold for the least amount of money ($4500). And she was up and going 3D but didn't have the smooth fast turn style the others did.
My reining cow/running bred mare sold for the most. She was grade also, but super honest and proven 2/3D. In big stuff and rodeo money winner. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | sparky16 - 2017-02-03 7:56 AM
Has anyone crossed Jets Pay Day or Bugs Alive In 75 with cow bred bloodlines?
I'm not sure about the magic crosses as I'm not a breeder but I'm a huge cow horse/performance horse fan and I can tell you my favorite have been the cutting lines for barrels crossed with run like dual pep, peppy San badger, anything doc olena, peptoboonsmal, freckles playboy, and for straight cow I've had a few nice working Boon, two eyed jacks - two eyed red buck, mr baron red (check all for pssm). Also zan par Barr crosses have crossed well with run in the barrel pen. I like cutting horses best because they have to hunt down a cow, turn and propel out of that turn into a run, they have all made great barrel horses, what they lack in speed they make up in their turns. |
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| RnRJack - 2017-02-03 11:53 AM astreakinchic - 2017-02-03 8:14 AM In this market I'd bred for barrels specifically as much as I could. It is hard enough to sale one. Traditionally BA 75 is a broodmare sire along with Shawne Bug, Jet of Honor, and Bully Bullion. But since your stud is BA 75 I'd try to find as many streakin six bred mares as possible to cross him with bc it has proven to be a nice cross with BA 75 daughters. IF I were to bred to a cow bred mare I'd find one that was a proven 1D mare herself or was a proven producer. Might look into Paddys Irish Whiskey daughters so you could market towards the roping crowd but I'd try to stay barrels as much as possible for marketability. I disagree, I just sold 3 cow/run and 2 all cow/working/cutting bred horses in a row, my straight running bred mare (packing sixes, track bred ) sold for the least amount of money ($4500 ). And she was up and going 3D but didn't have the smooth fast turn style the others did. My reining cow/running bred mare sold for the most. She was grade also, but super honest and proven 2/3D. In big stuff and rodeo money winner.
Shes marketing foals and thinking about breeding crosses.
Your talking about open horses big differences in marketability when things are up and running. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | astreakinchic - 2017-02-03 12:37 PM RnRJack - 2017-02-03 11:53 AM astreakinchic - 2017-02-03 8:14 AM In this market I'd bred for barrels specifically as much as I could. It is hard enough to sale one. Traditionally BA 75 is a broodmare sire along with Shawne Bug, Jet of Honor, and Bully Bullion. But since your stud is BA 75 I'd try to find as many streakin six bred mares as possible to cross him with bc it has proven to be a nice cross with BA 75 daughters. IF I were to bred to a cow bred mare I'd find one that was a proven 1D mare herself or was a proven producer. Might look into Paddys Irish Whiskey daughters so you could market towards the roping crowd but I'd try to stay barrels as much as possible for marketability. I disagree, I just sold 3 cow/run and 2 all cow/working/cutting bred horses in a row, my straight running bred mare (packing sixes, track bred ) sold for the least amount of money ($4500 ). And she was up and going 3D but didn't have the smooth fast turn style the others did. My reining cow/running bred mare sold for the most. She was grade also, but super honest and proven 2/3D. In big stuff and rodeo money winner. Shes marketing foals and thinking about breeding crosses.
Your talking about open horses big differences in marketability when things are up and running.
Yes our fancy ranch riding babies out of straight run bloodlines brought far more than those out of cowbred mares. We are in WY where cow horse breeding is much loved, but they want all cow or barrel racers want all run. I sold 99.9% of our babies and young riding horses over the internet on pictures and papers alone.
But with that said, I rode a ton of cowbred prospects out of some of the leading sires. If I wanted to start a mare band I would have daughters or grandget of Colonel Freckles. He is my top pick. Crossed on Smart Chic Olena they were NICE!!! Master Meradas were a favorite but not much bone, very trainable and crossed right could give you some speed. Everything has Peppy San Badger, that is comparing a cow horse to having Doc Bar-too many out there to be so random. More immediates we loved were Docs Oak, Playgun. Most anything that had Bueno Chex were super nice and had a bit of a motor.
I got to work around Bueno Fritzi Nic quite a bit and he was a cool dude. Never seemed to gain much fame as a sire, but he had good bone and was a sweet stallion to be around. His babies weren't old enough to ride at the place I was so no experience riding them either. https://www.facebook.com/BuenoFritziNic/ |
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Location: NE Texas | Playgun daughter....if i'm wishing, for the cowside. |
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| Lots of foals out of Howelling Corona on cow bred mares amazingly athletic gorgeously conformed and great minded with great bone and feet....you can't beat that speed and cow matchup. Look up Howelling Corona Howelling Corona on facebook profiles and on BHW lots on encentives too. |
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| I have owned/trained a fair number of pro rodeo barrel horses through the years (including one right now), and they have all been cold/hot bred. Cow horse, cutter or reiner on one side and race bred on the other. That is my favorite and has been very marketable. I have had more than 10 horses bred like that who have sold for quite a bit of money.
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| I have a daughter of Splash Bac / grandaughter of Dash For Cash, hot hot. 14.2 and GRITTY. What has crossed well on Splash Bac? I'd like something less fragile minded but just as fast and reliable. I've had her a little over a year and we are finally starting to hit the 1D |
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Location: Wyoming | I have a daughter of Holidoc with Jodie Fairfax on bottom been crossing her on my speed bred stallions and wow you better be a darn good rider to stick with them.
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