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Lookin For Diamonds
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2017-02-23 7:37 PM
Subject: Founder advice


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Has anyone ran a horse that has foundered and has a mild rotation in both front feet?? this is a condition that happened before i purchased him... He was a long yearling when i purchased him and i was stupid and didn't do a vet check. I just found this out this week. Just curious if anyone has any experience. Vet says there is a chance he won't hold up... but then he has seen worse cases and the horse was fine. please share your stories and experience.

ETA: he is coming 4 this year and was rode by the trainer last summer. He has been sound and has never taken a lame step.


 

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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-02-24 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: Founder advice



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My dear friend Deb Mohon had a horse that was badly foundered--Brown. He is the only horse to run in every performance at eleven NFR's. He had to have special shoeing and very careful vet care and it probably cost her over $100,000 in vet care over the years. Deb was given Brown off the track from a local guy.

My personal opinion is not to put a lot of time into a horse that already has some serious issues.

Here is a link you might like. This was posted by Deb's daughter in law.
https://www.ebarrelracing.com/forum/index.php?topic=11636.0%3bwap2

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Lookin For Diamonds
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Posted 2017-02-24 9:18 AM
Subject: RE: Founder advice


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streakysox - 2017-02-24 8:12 AM My dear friend Deb Mohon had a horse that was badly foundered--Brown. He is the only horse to run in every performance at eleven NFR's. He had to have special shoeing and very careful vet care and it probably cost her over $100,000 in vet care over the years. Deb was given Brown off the track from a local guy. My personal opinion is not to put a lot of time into a horse that already has some serious issues. Here is a link you might like. This was posted by Deb's daughter in law. https://www.ebarrelracing.com/forum/index.php?topic=11636.0%3bwap2[/...
 That's my thought to... move on! 
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Katielovestbs
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2017-02-24 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Founder advice



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I had a stallion that was foundered, and had been since he was a 2 year old. He ran "sound" until he was 7...because the trainer was blocking his feet. I held him together for a year after he retired, and then I couldn't watch him struggle anymore, so I put him down. I would never again own a horse that I knew going in was foundered, I cannot even begin to explain how hard it is to watch them go through that. There's no way to relieve foot pain, so they just begin to lay down all day, it's very rough. It's your horse, and I would never try to tell anyone what to do though! But for me, I will never ride one again that is rotated, because it can never get better! It will only get worse. And more painful. There's no coming back after rotation =[ Crossing my fingers that someday there is a cure <3
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2017-02-24 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: Founder advice


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Katielovestbs - 2017-02-24 3:47 PM

I had a stallion that was foundered, and had been since he was a 2 year old. He ran "sound" until he was 7...because the trainer was blocking his feet. I held him together for a year after he retired, and then I couldn't watch him struggle anymore, so I put him down. I would never again own a horse that I knew going in was foundered, I cannot even begin to explain how hard it is to watch them go through that. There's no way to relieve foot pain, so they just begin to lay down all day, it's very rough. It's your horse, and I would never try to tell anyone what to do though! But for me, I will never ride one again that is rotated, because it can never get better! It will only get worse. And more painful. There's no coming back after rotation =[ Crossing my fingers that someday there is a cure <3

Actually I have seen a few come back from a rotation.

The biggest one I seen was a 13 degree rotation in one foot this was an acute injury, the vet worked on her diligently and in 4 months there was no rotation.

It all depends on how rotated they are and what their triggers are.

I had one who was 2 degrees rotated this was a concussion injury, we trimmed him to the X-ray every 6 months for 2 years, he was sound barefoot, and no farrier would ever know he was foundered.

To the op if you have questions feel free to message me

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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2017-02-24 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: Founder advice


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If you know what caused the founder and prevent it in the future, they can live healthy happy lives. I have had a very VERY old pony that has foundered several times in his early years from grass. We have zero issues and other than arthriths, that little booger is a mover and a shaker. We bought a stud that was in serious founder/laminitis. He was drugged when we bought him, or vets are 99% sure of it. We lost him a month later. Just couldn't figure out what was causing it or why it kept progressing. It is a horrible way to die. 
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2017-02-25 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Founder advice


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I would consider finding the best get in the area and the best hoof trimmer or shoer (my preference is barefoot but to each their own, just make sure they know what they are doing and what they are working with) and have them consult on him, plan to keep up with X-rays to monitor it as work load increases, etc.

If there is any sign that it's getting worse or he's not holding up then reevaluate your plans.
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