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DashNDustem
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2017-07-22 12:25 AM
Subject: RE: Rearing problem....



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I'd get her checked out for pain.

Had a real nice mare a long time ago. I was young and stupid at the time, she started to have a rearing problem. She was lame on and off for a few months, I kept taking her to the vet and they even did xrays on her legs/feet, and told me that she had an abcess. Told me to treat it as an abcess. So I did, and I would start riding her again when she stopped limping.. and she'd go lame again. The rearing was a problem, it became a habit. When she didn't get any better, I was finally able to get in with MY vet.. and he looked at the Xrays, and literally pulled in the other vet that gave me the diagnosis 3-4 months before and asked him where the heck did he see an abcess? He showed me that my mare had a fractured ligament up near her canon bone, and he called that vet out for giving me a wrong diagnosis. But at that point.. it was too late. The ligament didn't heal right.

I couldn't sell her because she was a danger to others, so I kept her till she passed. Retired her from barrels after her proper diagnosis.

But she started rearing because she in pain. I didn't listen to her, and it sounds like your mare is trying to tell you something now.

I'd check with her hocks and stifles first, especially since she is rearing to go forward possibly to alleviate any pressure on her hind end. No amount of corrections can take care of a pain issue. Rearing is not something to just deal with, it's a very dangerous habit and I know people who have been killed by it, sadly enough. I refuse to have a rearing horse in my barn.

Edited by DashNDustem 2017-07-22 12:26 AM
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tnh0315
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2017-07-23 12:28 PM
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Have you check her for PSSM? You said magrestore helped; it could be her diet causing issues. You said she would just stand there after, her muscles maybe trying to tie up.
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RacingTheArabian
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2017-07-23 3:29 PM
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tnh0315 - 2017-07-23 12:28 PM

Have you check her for PSSM? You said magrestore helped; it could be her diet causing issues. You said she would just stand there after, her muscles maybe trying to tie up.

I just ordered the magrestore. The animal element detox has helped over the past year, I just started her on in the zone the last race too. She's on oats, aloe vera juice, her joint supplement and AE detox now soon to be magrestore. I have been wanting to get a 5 panel or specifically test for PSSM. A friend has a gelding who has it and she had a list of symptoms and she matched with quite a few. But I have never seen her tie up, so I never thought to test. But now with this, I am going to go through the whole 9 yards.
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brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2017-07-23 4:32 PM
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do you have videos of your runs since she started rearing?
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ma77_1
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Posted 2017-07-23 6:00 PM
Subject: Would this help at all?



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I know this is NOT a cure at all, but would something like a combination of a short tie-down combined with a war-bonnet keep a horse from complely flipping until they could be (possibly) calmed and retrained somewhat?  I know they can pop-up, trying to rear, and they can pitch a hissy fit, but could it at least, safety-wise, prevent a complete full-blown flip-over?

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RacingTheArabian
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2017-07-23 6:14 PM
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brlracerchick - 2017-07-23 4:32 PM

do you have videos of your runs since she started rearing?

Yes, I actually have all 4 we've been too.

This was June 8th: https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/pcb.1510769165610325/15...
Ran a 20.171

https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/1533655909988317/
June 29th ran a 19.303

https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/1544440712243170/
This was the run where she reared and I came off before running. July 6th ran a 18.941.

July 13th and our fastest run, didn't have any rearing before this run.
https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/1547635558590352/
Ran a 18.399.

She has never refused to go in the gait, or reared in the holding pen. Its always been before and normally after I have been setting on her to warm up. She has gotten faster each run, I don't really push between the barrels, just on the way home.

Edited by RacingTheArabian 2017-07-23 6:15 PM
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barrelracer63046304
Reg. Feb 2015
Posted 2017-07-23 8:52 PM
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RacingTheArabian - 2017-07-23 7:14 PM

brlracerchick - 2017-07-23 4:32 PM

do you have videos of your runs since she started rearing?

Yes, I actually have all 4 we've been too.

This was June 8th: https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/pcb.1510769165610325/15...
Ran a 20.171

https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/1533655909988317/
June 29th ran a 19.303

https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/1544440712243170/
This was the run where she reared and I came off before running. July 6th ran a 18.941.

July 13th and our fastest run, didn't have any rearing before this run.
https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/1547635558590352/
Ran a 18.399.

She has never refused to go in the gait, or reared in the holding pen. Its always been before and normally after I have been setting on her to warm up. She has gotten faster each run, I don't really push between the barrels, just on the way home.

I would guess pain as she has only recently started doing this. MOST horses do not want to hurt themselves (flipping over in her case). Again, most of the time, when they do flip over it is stimulated by pain or frustration.

In the videos of her running, I did not see when or where she reared but she looked like she was in pain when she ran. I know you said you were not pushing her but she was not opening up, even on the way home. She is going a bit wide around the barrels and she is not "finishing" them either.

I have heard a couple people did the bottle with water and it really helped them.

I wanted to add that this my opinion and take it for what its worth (<$0.01).

Edited by barrelracer63046304 2017-07-23 8:56 PM
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RacingTheArabian
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Posted 2017-07-23 10:32 PM
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barrelracer63046304 - 2017-07-23 8:52 PM

RacingTheArabian - 2017-07-23 7:14 PM

brlracerchick - 2017-07-23 4:32 PM

do you have videos of your runs since she started rearing?

Yes, I actually have all 4 we've been too.

This was June 8th: https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/pcb.1510769165610325/15...
Ran a 20.171

https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/1533655909988317/
June 29th ran a 19.303

https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/1544440712243170/
This was the run where she reared and I came off before running. July 6th ran a 18.941.

July 13th and our fastest run, didn't have any rearing before this run.
https://www.facebook.com/geni.jamison/videos/1547635558590352/
Ran a 18.399.

She has never refused to go in the gait, or reared in the holding pen. Its always been before and normally after I have been setting on her to warm up. She has gotten faster each run, I don't really push between the barrels, just on the way home.

I would guess pain as she has only recently started doing this. MOST horses do not want to hurt themselves (flipping over in her case). Again, most of the time, when they do flip over it is stimulated by pain or frustration.

In the videos of her running, I did not see when or where she reared but she looked like she was in pain when she ran. I know you said you were not pushing her but she was not opening up, even on the way home. She is going a bit wide around the barrels and she is not "finishing" them either.

I have heard a couple people did the bottle with water and it really helped them.

I wanted to add that this my opinion and take it for what its worth (<$0.01).

Can you tell me what you see as in pain wise? I cant seem to tell with her.... She doesn't head toss, no tail swishing, no cross firing, swaps her leads. Other then not finishing and being wide sometimes. I can't see any other signs. She's hard for me to read compared to my other mares.
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