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Location: MN | So I go to look in my horses mouth tonight, routine check up per say.
I found a thick coating of oats, flax and Renew Gold. What the heck?! The oats make him salivate quite a bit so maybe its making the RG goop up in his mouth? I have no clue but it cant be comfortable. I found this after he had already eaten a flake of hay....
I know I'll be checking more often now, that's for sure. But could this be a dental issue (he is up to date)?  |
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Location: Willows, CA | Leave out the flax. RG has flax already. I have not seen this happen if fed with oats, so I would think the added flax may be the issue. |
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| Maybe your horse has false teeth and you never noticed it before??
lol
Got any photos??
I think your problem is too much gluten in the processed feed you are
using... the milling companies use it to stick the pellets together.
The protein in gluten is water soluble and easily swallowed while the
other substance of gluten separates and is very sticky ...
The sticky nature of gluten has been utilized as a paper and fabric
glue, as in making papier-mâché and wallpaper paste.
Wheat gluten has also been used as a cattle feed and as a starting
point for the manufacture of the food flavour enhancer, monosodium glutamate.
Ever eat boneless ham, turkey or beef in a sandwich and wonder
why all of them are shaped the same?? The magic of sticky ichy
gluten is the answer .. lol
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| it's the flax I would guess.
If you're curious, lightly grind some and add some water. You'll have a glue like concoction. Flax can be used in place of things like flour and eggs in gluten free or vegetarian cooking for thickening and binding agents.
My horses always salivated like crazy too when we fed plain oats too, mix that with the flax and I can totally see this happening.
Since it's in the RG already I'd just leave it out and see if that fixes the problem. |
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Location: Willows, CA | BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-08-05 1:59 AM
Maybe your horse has false teeth and you never noticed it before??
lol
Got any photos??
I think your problem is too much gluten in the processed feed you are
using... the milling companies use it to stick the pellets together.
The protein in gluten is water soluble and easily swallowed while the
other substance of gluten separates and is very sticky ...
The sticky nature of gluten has been utilized as a paper and fabric
glue, as in making papier-mâché and wallpaper paste.
Wheat gluten has also been used as a cattle feed and as a starting
point for the manufacture of the food flavour enhancer, monosodium glutamate.
Ever eat boneless ham, turkey or beef in a sandwich and wonder
why all of them are shaped the same?? The magic of sticky ichy
gluten is the answer .. lol
There is no gluten in Renew Gold. |
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| Grain has always stuck to my guys teeth. He's had them done multiple times and it's just the way chews. Takes him forever to eat because of it but unless I want to soak it, there's not much else I can do. |
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| winwillows - 2017-08-05 10:43 AM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-08-05 1:59 AM
Maybe your horse has false teeth and you never noticed it before??
lol
Got any photos??
I think your problem is too much gluten in the processed feed you are
using... the milling companies use it to stick the pellets together.
The protein in gluten is water soluble and easily swallowed while the
other substance of gluten separates and is very sticky ...
The sticky nature of gluten has been utilized as a paper and fabric
glue, as in making papier-mâché and wallpaper paste.
Wheat gluten has also been used as a cattle feed and as a starting
point for the manufacture of the food flavour enhancer, monosodium glutamate.
Ever eat boneless ham, turkey or beef in a sandwich and wonder
why all of them are shaped the same?? The magic of sticky ichy
gluten is the answer .. lol
There is no gluten in Renew Gold.
As oats and flax are also gluten free...nope, not the gluten.
Edited by OhMax 2017-08-05 4:14 PM
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | In all the years I have own horses I have never had seen grain/feed sticking to my horses teeth/gums, I know alot of times I see my horses go drink water after they eat, kinda like they wash their mouths out. Just make sure your horse has plenty of fresh water at all times. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | My husband was an equine dentist for almost 40 years and in all those years he never saw a problem like that until he started to do horses that were using a local feed. I don't know what was in it, but it did what you described and it was a slimey mess. Seemed to take forever for my husband to flush their mouths out enough so he could float them.
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Location: MN | Ive been feeding flax and oats for quite a while now and this hasn't happened until I added in the half pound of RG. I have fed RG in the past without this happening but my horse needs a little something extra right now from the bugs being terrible & it being pretty hot out so I figured I'd grab a bag. I usually feed off of the ground but the day I noticed, I had fed in a bucket so the next day I fed off of the ground like I normally do....same thing. I guess I'll just be cleaning teeth till I'm done with this bag of RG!  |
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Location: Willows, CA | Kay-DRacing. - 2017-08-07 8:24 AM
Ive been feeding flax and oats for quite a while now and this hasn't happened until I added in the half pound of RG. I have fed RG in the past without this happening but my horse needs a little something extra right now from the bugs being terrible & it being pretty hot out so I figured I'd grab a bag. I usually feed off of the ground but the day I noticed, I had fed in a bucket so the next day I fed off of the ground like I normally do....same thing. I guess I'll just be cleaning teeth till I'm done with this bag of RG!
As I said above, take out the extra flax. If you are feeding it for extra omega 3, you eliminate that need by limiting or eliminating grain and the high omega 6 that it brings to the diet. If you feel you need more, spend your money on better hay, not grain.
Edited by winwillows 2017-08-07 10:46 AM
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Location: MN | winwillows - 2017-08-07 10:06 AM Kay-DRacing. - 2017-08-07 8:24 AM Ive been feeding flax and oats for quite a while now and this hasn't happened until I added in the half pound of RG. I have fed RG in the past without this happening but my horse needs a little something extra right now from the bugs being terrible & it being pretty hot out so I figured I'd grab a bag. I usually feed off of the ground but the day I noticed, I had fed in a bucket so the next day I fed off of the ground like I normally do....same thing. I guess I'll just be cleaning teeth till I'm done with this bag of RG! As I said above, take out the extra flax. If you are feeding it for extra omega 3, you eliminate that need by limiting or eliminating grain and the high omega 6 that it brings to the diet. If you feel you need more, spend your money on better hay, not grain.
Thanks Win. I will be removing the flax tonight. |
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