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cmcelroy0308
Reg. Aug 2015
Posted 2017-08-31 9:20 PM
Subject: Nail thru white line


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Had a farrier drive 2 nails thru white line. Anyone have any experience on what's best treatment. The nails were pulled out within a couple hours. It's been 9 days and still lame. Been soaking and packing foot
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2017-09-01 2:24 AM
Subject: RE: Nail thru white line




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By this time you may have abscess' forming so think about that possibility.
I would pull all of the horses shoes and turpentine all of the nail holes.

I always wonder why I never hear that the shoer that created
the damage is actively coming by to doctor the horse at no charge!!!???

Hot nails or excessive trims can be treated with pure 100% turpentine.
Buy at drug stores or pharmacy..

Keep in mind hooves do not soak up anything so wet the nail holes
or trim down with a medium wetting of turpentine by squeezing
drops out of your small rag .. on the trim line, hot nail holes and
the sole of the hoof

.... turpentine can blister the hairline so wrap upper hoof with
small hand towel to prevent any dripples ...
just pretend you are painting your nails.

If possible do this 3 times per day for the next 4-5 days ...

It is best to do this as soon as the horse jerks his foot away from
shoer when he felt the hot nail pain ... before any inflammation
sets in and then embedded bacteria starts an infection.

What turpentine does .... it dries out the new trim, hot nail holes
and sole of hoof to make them tuffer and also it closes off the
nerve endings that are transmitting the pain!! It helps all kinds
of hoof wall or sole soreness ..

If you want to really get aggressive ... stand the sore feet in a
bucket of ice water that includes the ankle for 30 minutes
twice a day. Dry off really well and do the turpentine ...

Since it has been 9+ days ... I would add 20cc IM of PenG for 5 days
or one of the Sulphur wide range antibiotics ..

GOOD LUCK!!!
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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2017-09-01 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: Nail thru white line



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With all due respect to the poster above...call your vet. Typically antibiotics are not recommended if an abscess is suspected. It can actually prolong the issue. But again...I'd be talking to my vet if it were my horse.
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linds
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2017-09-01 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: Nail thru white line


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I've been told to use Oxy-Clean.  Never tried it. 
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2017-09-01 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: Nail thru white line



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BARRELHORSE USA - 2017-09-01 12:24 AM

By this time you may have abscess' forming so think about that possibility.
I would pull all of the horses shoes and turpentine all of the nail holes.

I always wonder why I never hear that the shoer that created
the damage is actively coming by to doctor the horse at no charge!!!???

Hot nails or excessive trims can be treated with pure 100% turpentine.
Buy at drug stores or pharmacy..

Keep in mind hooves do not soak up anything so wet the nail holes
or trim down with a medium wetting of turpentine by squeezing
drops out of your small rag .. on the trim line, hot nail holes and
the sole of the hoof

.... turpentine can blister the hairline so wrap upper hoof with
small hand towel to prevent any dripples ...
just pretend you are painting your nails.

If possible do this 3 times per day for the next 4-5 days ...

It is best to do this as soon as the horse jerks his foot away from
shoer when he felt the hot nail pain ... before any inflammation
sets in and then embedded bacteria starts an infection.

What turpentine does .... it dries out the new trim, hot nail holes
and sole of hoof to make them tuffer and also it closes off the
nerve endings that are transmitting the pain!! It helps all kinds
of hoof wall or sole soreness ..

If you want to really get aggressive ... stand the sore feet in a
bucket of ice water that includes the ankle for 30 minutes
twice a day. Dry off really well and do the turpentine ...

Since it has been 9+ days ... I would add 20cc IM of PenG for 5 days
or one of the Sulphur wide range antibiotics ..

GOOD LUCK!!!

I really disagree on the " Hooves do not soak up anything" comment. Its totally false. If that were the case a horse would never get soft feet during winter or from standing in the mud, they would never dry out in the summer. Makes no sense. Medical science has proven a horse's hoof is EXTREMELY pourous and can absorb moisture even from the air.

Edited by FLITASTIC 2017-09-01 3:26 PM
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Fun2Run
Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2017-09-01 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: Nail thru white line



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 Get a syringe and shoot iodine into the nail holes.
It is true, an abscess might be brewing and you might end up having to pull the shoes.
In that case,  prefer to pack a hoof rather than soak it, because I don't like standing around waiting for a hoof to soak.

 
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cmcelroy0308
Reg. Aug 2015
Posted 2017-09-01 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: Nail thru white line


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She's been at vets since Monday. They are doing a perfusion
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cmcelroy0308
Reg. Aug 2015
Posted 2017-09-01 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: Nail thru white line


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Shoes were pulled immediately when we saw she was lame.
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2017-09-06 5:39 AM
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cmcelroy0308 - 2017-09-01 4:54 PM

She's been at vets since Monday. They are doing a perfusion

AS always I am amazed at your replies and feel sorry for your horses
at the same time.

Not a one of you know what a perfusion is and what it entails to
make sure every thing is sanitary and aseptic when poking a
needle into a joint or an enclosed region like the horses hoof ..
there is no where for the hoof to release any additional pressure.

Watch this video and the unsanitary, no gloves, no shaving of hair.
bare hands and a swipe of alcohol in both locations.

and you object to a
simple procedure of 5 shots of PenG ... and cautioning you not
to expect the hoof to soak up anything in a short period of time ..
makes me think of the news media dissing Malania wearing her
stiletto heels ... lol You guys would have really freaked out if
I had also recommended to soak the hoof in Epson salt solution
twice per day for 30 minutes each.

Looks like a massive vet bill headed your way along with more
problems than you started with!!

PROFUSION OF MASSIVE DOSES OF ANTIBIOTICS INTO THE HOOF

https://youtu.be/xdaqqKEvndU

Now whatta ya think??

BTW ... Where is that farrier that caused all of this??


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Spin Doctor
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2017-09-06 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: Nail thru white line


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Been shoeing for 30+years. Have caused a few hot nails but have never, I repeat, have never had them blow up if removed at once. 99% of horses let you know it is a hot nail before you even finish the foot.

Instead of assuming the worst, I would bet, that since you pulled the shoes, the trim is a little short also and you are seeing being sore footed due to thin soled, not an infection or anything doing with the nail. Or if the horse has had shoes on for a while, a lot will be sore no matter how careful you are when you pull shoes.

What is the horse standing on all day? I suspect a stall?? I bet if you turned him out in a sandy pen, he would be fine a day or two.

A cheap pair of hoof testers would let you know if this is the deal. Hopefully the vet did this first thing. But a lot of vets assume the worst and treat accordingly.

By the way, I am an Epson Salts fan....

Good luck but some times, scientific neglect is the best treatment.

Edited by Spin Doctor 2017-09-06 2:19 PM
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