Managing Bleeders without Lasix

WetSaddleBlankets - 2020-01-20 8:50 PM

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RnRJack - 2014-07-23 5:26 PM If I had a horse that bled through 7-8cc of lasix I would retire that horse plain and simple, their lungs obviously aren't strong enough to be running barrels and there's plenty of horses that will and can without all that. That's only my opinion though. I will not do anymore trial and error, lasix is the only know deterrent from bleeding. Everytime they bleed you compromise their lungs and health even more, causing scar tissue, possible infection, etc. I believe certain supplements help, especially with the vitamin K but would not give up on the lasix, maybe just lower the dose. I only give 2.5-3cc at most.

That amount won't hurt the horse... Heck that's less that the hospital would give you if you were in need of lasix lol.. I know of a couple of horses that run on ten cc's

yes but for what reason? to get rid of water is one thing but to control bleeders in lungs is another IMO.. its not the meds or the amount its th reason they need it would concern me to have to give that much.. how do we know it isnt affecting them at 10cc? because they do it and say so? or horse runs better? what damage long term is it doing? just curoius to a response..

that is the purpose of giving lazix is to get rid of fluid in the body... it will lower blood pressure which in turn helps with bleeding... LONG TERM damage??? unless you are using it every day there isnt much to worry about... people live on this stuff...

Long term issues - tying up, anemia, higher incidence of bone fractures due to calcium being leeched out of their bones, kidney failure. Yes, there are serious side effects of long term use.

There is also long term effects from other medications... Dex also affects calcium absorption, causes laminitis and if stopped abruptly it affects cortisol levels. Omeprazole is also proven to effect calcium absorption. Bute and other NSAIDs obviously affect gut and kidney health. Intra articular corticosteroids can cause laminitis and infection when placed in the joint not aseptically enough. Osphos delays bone healing. There is a risk in everything we give our horse and ourselves!!! Management and dosing under the care of vet is the most important thing! Research States the importance of following up with a good electrolyte for a few days post dosing lasix. I have patients on daily lasix for congestive heart failure and they are not told about taking extra electrolytes or vitamins to replace the ones that are leached out after taking it! Lastly people always want to go herbal or the natural route... But they forget that even things in nature can harm us and is poisonous! Just a thought...

I absolutely agree! My response was to the comment that there isn't long term damage to think about. But you are absolutely correct...there is long term effects to ANY medication that is used regularily. It is best to be aware and educate yourself about these effects. Burying your head in the sand and saying there is no effects to think about is irresponsible, in my opinion.

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