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| Nevertooold - 2017-10-07 8:14 PM
want2chase3 - 2017-10-05 10:42 AM All of the conspiracy theories coming out non stop now.. multiple shooters, shooter in the crowd... etc etc. .. I've had to un follow a handful of people on fb who just won't quit.. it is a horrible thing that happened, people lost loved ones, I have friends that are burying a young family member this weekend because of it... a young man who's life ended abruptly. It's all sickening to me. Sorry, just ranting I'm just sick of people spewing stuff they truly don't know about to push an agenda.
I just got back from Arizona and our daughter's next door neighbors were there. The first thing she said to us was, "I'm so tired of people talking about this that weren't there. They don't have a clue what it was like."
Exactly. . My friends laid that young man to rest today... very emotional... he didn't deserve to go out that way... my heart is broken | |
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Location: Arkansas | Frodo - 2017-10-07 12:58 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2017-10-06 10:05 PM Does anyone know statistics from countries that have implemented gun control/forced registration, etc? Meaning if their shootings/killings/murders/violence has decreased, increased, or remained the same? I know I could use IRunOnFaith's magic Google button, but I haven't been to sleep since Wednesday, and I'm not sure I can even find Google right now. . .
Not sure of the stats but I know Australia implemented gun control. Bad guys ended up with guns......good guys have to throw rocks.
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Guess this is what I was alluding to---thank you Frodo.
I just read the People article on Vegas, and it is heartbreaking. . . . | |
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Location: Mountains of VA | When the news first broke and we were learning about Paddock, the media explained that his father was a notorious bank robber back when. Has this information been elaborated on that anyone knows of? I just do not want to do a search and read something that is not true. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | hotpaints - 2017-10-08 1:05 PM When the news first broke and we were learning about Paddock, the media explained that his father was a notorious bank robber back when. Has this information been elaborated on that anyone knows of? I just do not want to do a search and read something that is not true. This just came out in an Iowa newspaper today......
Las Vegas Gunman Born in IowaOctober 8, 2017 | Meghan D'Souza The gunman who killed 58 and injured nearly 500 more people at a country music festival in Las Vegas last week was born in eastern Iowa. WQAD reports that Clinton County Recorder Scott Judd confirmed on Friday, Oct. 6, that Stephen Paddock was born in Clinton Iowa. According to the certificate, Paddock was born on April 9, 1953, to Patrick Benjamin Paddock and Dolores Irene Paddock at Jane Lamb Hospital. The Clinton Herald reports that those names were aliases; Patrick was actually Benjamin Paddock and Dolores was Irene Paddock. Authorities say it is unclear how long Paddock or his family lived in Clinton. In the days following the shooting, multiple media outlets reported that Benjamin Paddock was previously on the FBI’s Most Wanted list. The Daily Standard indicates that Benjamin Paddock was held in the Illinois State Penitentiary from 1953 until 1956. He was arrested by the FBI from the family’s home in Arizona in 1960, then escaped in 1969. The house on 16th Avenue South listed on Paddock’s birth certificate no longer exists.
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| hotpaints - 2017-10-08 1:05 PM
When the news first broke and we were learning about Paddock, the media explained that his father was a notorious bank robber back when. Has this information been elaborated on that anyone knows of? I just do not want to do a search and read something that is not true.
Yes it is true at one point he was on the FBI most wanted list. | |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | DLV - 2017-10-05 1:41 PM Nateracer - 2017-10-05 2:07 PM DLV - 2017-10-05 2:02 PM I feel like this is becoming normal thing, every few months, a terrorist or crazy person opens fire on innocent people. We say what a tragedy, we wish evil on the person that did it, we hope for justice but nothing really changes besides more security which we all know can only prevent so much... Everyone spouts it's not guns that are doing this (I know there's other ways to kill people) but then WHAT IS THE SOLUTION!? What do we, or what should government do change or put an end to it? Like usual, in a few weeks, this will be talked about less and less but then we'll get back on with our lives..until the next shooting occurs.. who knows where? It's happened in the town I live in in the past year even, does anything change? Nope! So I say, if it's not the guns that are the problem, then we need to address what the problem is. I always think the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting the same result... it seems to me nothing is done... it won't stop... We say we need to bring God back to our Country and I totally agree but what about other Countries that are mainly atheist, Buddist, Hinduist, etc etc we don't hear about mass killings in their Countries like we do here. I just don't understand it and I'm tired of the same argument again and again and again but nothing changes overall.... The ONLY thing that will change the state of affairs is bringing back morals and family, and God, and mental health.
No one in their RIGHT mind seeks to harm others. But somewhere there is a huge state of affairs right now where people are broken and broken down, which causes them to fall apart and want to take revenge on whoever they think will hurt the most. I do agree to a point but what about other Countries that don't have God in their families and still don't try to shoot hundreds of people. I don't know the answer either but I think we need to do more than say "prayers" "what a tragedy" etc etc and get to the root of it. I think we need to wake up and notice these people that are feeling ignored maybe. I was recently at a Church Conference and we watched a story about a survivor that jumped off the Golden Gate bridge to try to take his life. he is one of 19 people out of over 2,000 that have jumped off that bridge and committed suicide. He said that on his walk on the bridge if one person would have noticed him and tried to talk to him, he wouldn't have done it. We are so engrossed in our own lives, going to coffee, to eat, trips etc that I feel like we rarely SEE those who are hurting. Statistically too I bet if we look back on nearly all people who have committed these crimes, we would find children of torn families, single parents, drugs, abuse etc. We need to address these things and do more to be a family to children who are at risk. We spend so much on war in our Country but families are falling apart all around and not much is done to help them besides food and shelter. A lot of things to think about and address. I think it stems from childhood experiences. The Society we live in but we could change it. It needs to be a priority though.
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Location: Mountains of VA | NJJ - 2017-10-08 1:34 PM hotpaints - 2017-10-08 1:05 PM When the news first broke and we were learning about Paddock, the media explained that his father was a notorious bank robber back when. Has this information been elaborated on that anyone knows of? I just do not want to do a search and read something that is not true. This just came out in an Iowa newspaper today......
Las Vegas Gunman Born in Iowa
October 8, 2017 | Meghan D'Souza
The gunman who killed 58 and injured nearly 500 more people at a country music festival in Las Vegas last week was born in eastern Iowa.
WQAD reports that Clinton County Recorder Scott Judd confirmed on Friday, Oct. 6, that Stephen Paddock was born in Clinton Iowa.
According to the certificate, Paddock was born on April 9, 1953, to Patrick Benjamin Paddock and Dolores Irene Paddock at Jane Lamb Hospital. The Clinton Herald reports that those names were aliases; Patrick was actually Benjamin Paddock and Dolores was Irene Paddock.
Authorities say it is unclear how long Paddock or his family lived in Clinton.
In the days following the shooting, multiple media outlets reported that Benjamin Paddock was previously on the FBI’s Most Wanted list.
The Daily Standard indicates that Benjamin Paddock was held in the Illinois State Penitentiary from 1953 until 1956. He was arrested by the FBI from the family’s home in Arizona in 1960, then escaped in 1969.
The house on 16th Avenue South listed on Paddock’s birth certificate no longer exists.
This is interesting news..........so did Stephan Paddock want to go out being more "newsworthy" than his father? If so, WHY kill so many innocent people.........it is just so sad. | |
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| hotpaints - 2017-10-08 1:56 PM NJJ - 2017-10-08 1:34 PM hotpaints - 2017-10-08 1:05 PM When the news first broke and we were learning about Paddock, the media explained that his father was a notorious bank robber back when. Has this information been elaborated on that anyone knows of? I just do not want to do a search and read something that is not true. This just came out in an Iowa newspaper today......
Las Vegas Gunman Born in Iowa
October 8, 2017 | Meghan D'Souza
The gunman who killed 58 and injured nearly 500 more people at a country music festival in Las Vegas last week was born in eastern Iowa.
WQAD reports that Clinton County Recorder Scott Judd confirmed on Friday, Oct. 6, that Stephen Paddock was born in Clinton Iowa.
According to the certificate, Paddock was born on April 9, 1953, to Patrick Benjamin Paddock and Dolores Irene Paddock at Jane Lamb Hospital. The Clinton Herald reports that those names were aliases; Patrick was actually Benjamin Paddock and Dolores was Irene Paddock.
Authorities say it is unclear how long Paddock or his family lived in Clinton.
In the days following the shooting, multiple media outlets reported that Benjamin Paddock was previously on the FBI’s Most Wanted list.
The Daily Standard indicates that Benjamin Paddock was held in the Illinois State Penitentiary from 1953 until 1956. He was arrested by the FBI from the family’s home in Arizona in 1960, then escaped in 1969.
The house on 16th Avenue South listed on Paddock’s birth certificate no longer exists.
Interesting thought and very plausible. | |
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| Everything I have heard (but of course, this is coming from the media, so what can you believe), is that he didn't have a relationship with his father, so I don't know that he would have wanted to be more famous than him. | |
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| rodeomom3 - 2017-10-09 6:02 AM
hotpaints - 2017-10-08 1:56 PM NJJ - 2017-10-08 1:34 PM hotpaints - 2017-10-08 1:05 PM When the news first broke and we were learning about Paddock, the media explained that his father was a notorious bank robber back when. Has this information been elaborated on that anyone knows of? I just do not want to do a search and read something that is not true. This just came out in an Iowa newspaper today......
 Las Vegas Gunman Born in Iowa
October 8, 2017Â | Meghan D'Souza
The gunman who killed 58 and injured nearly 500 more people at a country music festival in Las Vegas last week was born in eastern Iowa.
WQAD reports that Clinton County Recorder Scott Judd confirmed on Friday, Oct. 6, that Stephen Paddock was born in Clinton Iowa.
According to the certificate, Paddock was born on April 9, 1953, to Patrick Benjamin Paddock and Dolores Irene Paddock at Jane Lamb Hospital. The Clinton Herald reports that those names were aliases; Patrick was actually Benjamin Paddock and Dolores was Irene Paddock.
Authorities say it is unclear how long Paddock or his family lived in Clinton.
In the days following the shooting, multiple media outlets reported that Benjamin Paddock was previously on the FBI’s Most Wanted list.
The Daily Standard indicates that Benjamin Paddock was held in the Illinois State Penitentiary from 1953 until 1956. He was arrested by the FBI from the family’s home in Arizona in 1960, then escaped in 1969.
The house on 16th Avenue South listed on Paddock’s birth certificate no longer exists.
They say he didn't grow up with his father...(probably went to jail).. | |
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| powerstroke power - 2017-10-11 12:42 PM rodeomom3 - 2017-10-09 6:02 AM hotpaints - 2017-10-08 1:56 PM NJJ - 2017-10-08 1:34 PM hotpaints - 2017-10-08 1:05 PM When the news first broke and we were learning about Paddock, the media explained that his father was a notorious bank robber back when. Has this information been elaborated on that anyone knows of? I just do not want to do a search and read something that is not true. This just came out in an Iowa newspaper today......
Las Vegas Gunman Born in Iowa
October 8, 2017 | Meghan D'Souza
The gunman who killed 58 and injured nearly 500 more people at a country music festival in Las Vegas last week was born in eastern Iowa.
WQAD reports that Clinton County Recorder Scott Judd confirmed on Friday, Oct. 6, that Stephen Paddock was born in Clinton Iowa.
According to the certificate, Paddock was born on April 9, 1953, to Patrick Benjamin Paddock and Dolores Irene Paddock at Jane Lamb Hospital. The Clinton Herald reports that those names were aliases; Patrick was actually Benjamin Paddock and Dolores was Irene Paddock.
Authorities say it is unclear how long Paddock or his family lived in Clinton.
In the days following the shooting, multiple media outlets reported that Benjamin Paddock was previously on the FBI’s Most Wanted list.
The Daily Standard indicates that Benjamin Paddock was held in the Illinois State Penitentiary from 1953 until 1956. He was arrested by the FBI from the family’s home in Arizona in 1960, then escaped in 1969.
The house on 16th Avenue South listed on Paddock’s birth certificate no longer exists. They say he didn't grow up with his father... (probably went to jail )..
Yes, but who knows how his mind worked, growing up without him may have made his absentee father a focus of his. | |
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