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Location: Somewhere around here | My name is cecollins0811, and I'm a micromanager. (Lol I feel like I'm in a AA meeting) I had an "ah ha!" moment almost two weeks ago when I realized that I was a helicopter mom to my horse. I never threw him the reins to let him make mistakes! Now we're doing super slow work, walk + trot, to fix everything I've done wrong and to let him be more independent on the pattern and in the arena. Ugh, I'm embarrassed of myself for doing this, never happened before with my past horses, but I believe it happened because this was my first horse that I trained from his colt breaking days to now, which he's 8. Any tips for me to breaking this awful habit and mindset? |
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Location: South Dakota | I would study Lance Grave's training program...on FB...You tube. A Flash Drive may still be available, from 321 Action Video, showing his recent entire 4 day Florida clinic. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I may be your twin... 
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Location: 31 lengths farms | And as for advice, go take some lessons. I had no idea I had micro managed my gelding till one day at a herd work lesson with the trainer he literally threatened to take my reins and feet away from me, LOL!!! I had whined one day about that my gelding, who was 5 at the time, was much more talented that he showed and very willing but didnt' have much "try". At this lesson Skeet kept telling me "good, release...release...RELEASE!!!" abut the 3rd time he says "Oh for Chr*$^ Sakes, no wonder he doesn't have any Try, you picked it out of him, RELEASE!!!! Leave him be, let him try, let him make the mistake, correct him and then LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!" I almost burst into tears but then realized the things that hurt the most are usually because they have just enough truth in them to hit the hardest. I applaud you for finding the error yourself.  |
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Location: Somewhere around here | run n rate - 2017-10-19 2:53 PM
And as for advice, go take some lessons. I had no idea I had micro managed my gelding till one day at a herd work lesson with the trainer he literally threatened to take my reins and feet away from me, LOL!!! I had whined one day about that my gelding, who was 5 at the time, was much more talented that he showed and very willing but didnt' have much "try". At this lesson Skeet kept telling me "good, release...release...RELEASE!!!" abut the 3rd time he says "Oh for Chr*$^ Sakes, no wonder he doesn't have any Try, you picked it out of him, RELEASE!!!! Leave him be, let him try, let him make the mistake, correct him and then LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!" I almost burst into tears but then realized the things that hurt the most are usually because they have just enough truth in them to hit the hardest. I applaud you for finding the error yourself.
Thanks! It's a good of mine to go to a very successful ladies house and ride with her soon but our schedule is so busy right now I'll probably have to do it in wintertime. And yes I feel like we are twins! My horse has loads of talent but I never realized I was getting in his way until recently! I felt awful and still feel bad. I hope I haven't ruined him. |
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| run n rate - 2017-10-19 1:53 PM
And as for advice, go take some lessons. I had no idea I had micro managed my gelding till one day at a herd work lesson with the trainer he literally threatened to take my reins and feet away from me, LOL!!! I had whined one day about that my gelding, who was 5 at the time, was much more talented that he showed and very willing but didnt' have much "try". At this lesson Skeet kept telling me "good, release...release...RELEASE!!!" abut the 3rd time he says "Oh for Chr*$^ Sakes, no wonder he doesn't have any Try, you picked it out of him, RELEASE!!!! Leave him be, let him try, let him make the mistake, correct him and then LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!" I almost burst into tears but then realized the things that hurt the most are usually because they have just enough truth in them to hit the hardest. I applaud you for finding the error yourself.
Omg this is me! I also started a colt and have the same issue. I used to ride jumpers and specialized in "problem" horses. Went to a clinic and the clinician said "I understand your background, but you have to give this colt a chance to do it on his own. He's smart and if you don't allow him to figure it out for himself he's going to get bored and not want to try for you."
I'm in this AA group with the rest of you. :( |
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Location: South Dakota | Me too!! I couldn't figure out why my otherwise smart horse couldn't figure out the barrels. I finally gave up and gave him to my daughter who must have been about 10 at the time. She just started entering him and expecting him to turn....and he did.
There is a good article by Kay Blandford in Heather Smith's BarrelRacingTips about this. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Timber Creek - 2017-10-20 11:18 AM
Me too!! I couldn't figure out why my otherwise smart horse couldn't figure out the barrels. I finally gave up and gave him to my daughter who must have been about 10 at the time. She just started entering him and expecting him to turn....and he did.
There is a good article by Kay Blandford in Heather Smith's BarrelRacingTips about this.
Yes exactly! I read her article a few weeks ago and it really hit home. Heather also wrote an article herself on micromanaging and what she did to help herself because she had the same problem too. I read it a couple years ago but I was thinking "Nahh, that's not me". Oh how wrong I was.  |
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Location: South Dakota | cecollins0811 - 2017-10-20 2:17 PM Timber Creek - 2017-10-20 11:18 AM Me too!! I couldn't figure out why my otherwise smart horse couldn't figure out the barrels. I finally gave up and gave him to my daughter who must have been about 10 at the time. She just started entering him and expecting him to turn....and he did.
There is a good article by Kay Blandford in Heather Smith's BarrelRacingTips about this. Yes exactly! I read her article a few weeks ago and it really hit home. Heather also wrote an article herself on micromanaging and what she did to help herself because she had the same problem too. I read it a couple years ago but I was thinking "Nahh, that's not me". Oh how wrong I was.
Probably why those horses I rode as a kid were patterned better than the ones I ride now lol! |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Timber Creek - 2017-10-21 12:37 PM
cecollins0811 - 2017-10-20 2:17 PM Timber Creek - 2017-10-20 11:18 AM Me too!! I couldn't figure out why my otherwise smart horse couldn't figure out the barrels. I finally gave up and gave him to my daughter who must have been about 10 at the time. She just started entering him and expecting him to turn....and he did.
There is a good article by Kay Blandford in Heather Smith's BarrelRacingTips about this. Yes exactly! I read her article a few weeks ago and it really hit home. Heather also wrote an article herself on micromanaging and what she did to help herself because she had the same problem too. I read it a couple years ago but I was thinking "Nahh, that's not me". Oh how wrong I was.
I'm so glad there are more of us, LOL!!! |
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Location: Texas | Granddaughter started college and doesn't have that must time to ride. Left barrel horse at home and her team roping dad rides him during the week to keep him in shape. He gets roped off of, he gathers cattle and he stays tied up a large portion of the day. Dad has pulled some weight off of him AND Dad has worked him on the barrel pattern. (first barrel problems in the past) Horse made a really nice run at the college rodeo this week. Sometimes our horses just need a change. |
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Location: midwest mama | This - yes!!!!
I have been worried far too long about being ultra precise on my barrel horse. Then I started doing Cowboy Dressage on her which can require even MORE precision. She was frustrated and so was I. We never got to relax.
I decided to just throw her reins to her, go forward and have fun - and it has made all the difference in the world. For both of us. :) |
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Location: Lost in the swamps |  Hi I'm imturnin3 and I also micromanage. Lol my last horse didn't go so well. He was very inconsistent.. one day he'd smoke a pattern the next day I didn't know what he smoked..lol.. This new horse I trained I micromanaged to the fullest! Because I was scared to make the same mistakes with this horse like the last one. He is a neat little horse. Had had rounds of time off due to injury though and we are recently back at it for the last few months and went to a Paul himpheries clinic (which I thought I would bomb! But he was the star of the clinic!!) and he kept telling me he's doing great quit trying to be soo perfect with him! It was an eye opener. |
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