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Frozen Semen and Frozen Embryos

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texpat
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2017-10-23 4:55 PM
Subject: Frozen Semen and Frozen Embryos


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I am considering a particular stallion but am not yet ready to breed. My plan is to buy his frozen semen, store it, then

search for a broodmare with similar conformation. I'll buy eggs and ICSI embryos if necessary. The embryos would

then be frozen and stored until needed. Can you recommend a veterinarian in either Texas or Oklahoma who has a

high rate of success? Thanks.
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1DSoon
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2017-10-23 6:34 PM
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 this sounds like a really solid plan
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2017-10-23 8:10 PM
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I could be wrong but I can't think of a stallion owner that will send you frozen semen that isn't to be put in a mare asap. They have strict paperwork that has to be on file with AQHA proving what mare was bred, when etc etc.  Your best bet is to buy a mare or purchase an embryo now then find a stallion. Your way is kind of having a honey moon before the wedding. 
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Ashley Lynn
Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2017-10-23 9:08 PM
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Why wouldn’t you just wait until after you’ve found the mare you want to breed to buy your semen?! Why pay to store it? As stated above- I don’t know of a stallion owner that’s going to sell you a breeding to store.
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texpat
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2017-10-23 10:09 PM
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I'm new to the breeding business and unfamiliar with the A.Q.H.A. rules and regulations. I thought it would be possible to purchase and store the frozen semen until needed. Thanks.
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2017-10-24 8:45 AM
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I think your best bet is to select a stallion you like, though maybe not actually purchase semen yet, and then start looking for a mare you feel will complement him in breeding, conformation, and/or performance. As you do your research you can look into an embryo option or even perhaps leasing a mare if your goal is not to keep one long term. Once you have selected the mare and arranged for a breeding lease or purchase of an embryo, THEN you should contact the stallion owner about purchasing semen for the upcoming season. If everything else is in line, at that point your vet (or the mare owner's vet if you lease) should be able to handle the shipping, breeding, and possible transfer of the embryo.

So SELECT stallion, then SELECT AND PAY FOR MARE, then PAY for stallion, and then let the vets handle it.

And since none of this is cheap, consider budgeting carefully during the selection stage. You may also want to select/research certain breeding facilities that have higher success rates. I believe Rio Vista (if I am getting that name right) in OK has very high success rates with Embryo transfer for example. Or if you can spend the big bucks, you can do ICSI.
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lindseylou2290
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2017-10-24 10:04 AM
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Yeah - horse breeding isn't like cattle/sheep/pigs/goats where you can buy straws and store them ..... registration rules are a bit different in that stallions have to list mares bred on breeding reports yearly, which isn't always the case with other species.

There are some great repro vets out there that specialize in Equine work, and yes, you will want a specialized practitioner.

Good Luck
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SGD
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2017-10-24 10:04 PM
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Most stallion breeding contracts do guarantee a live foal from frozen embryos. So if it doesn't defrost & stick in the repro mare you are out of luck & money.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2017-10-24 10:06 PM
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texpat - 2017-10-23 10:09 PM

I'm new to the breeding business and unfamiliar with the A.Q.H.A. rules and regulations. I thought it would be possible to purchase and store the frozen semen until needed. Thanks.

You don't know unless you ask, and you're in the best place to ask those kinds of questions
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texpat
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2017-10-24 10:14 PM
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Lots of good info. Many thanks.
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2017-10-24 11:40 PM
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If you are going to spend that kind of money, I would put it into a young horse and be five years ahead.

1. You breed, wait a year for the foal. Wait a couple years to break one. Train for at least two years before you are competing, you haves good five years there.

2. You never know what your are going to get. It is heartbreaking if you lose one.

3. Foals are notorious for getting injured and some end up unridable.

4. Even a "cheap" stud fee can get very expensive.
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