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Location: Tulsa, Ok | To me the entry fees are not that big of a deal as higher fees should equal better payback and they usually come along with more added money. I do always take into consideration the actual percentage of payback on the total cost (entry plus office/processing charges) If "charges" are significant enough to drive the true percentage of payout below 60%, I would be out unless there was big added money. |
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Location: mi | I can only speak for how the costs are determined for our breed shows, but some of may also help you understand how it works for barrel races. Our nicest facility charges our club $28 per stall for the weekend. BUT they have a minimum facility fee. so if we don't sell what works out to basically 200 stalls then we pay the difference reguardless. and if we sell more then the minimum its $28 a stall. So we need a slight buffer incase we are under the minimum stalls. The facility does not allow trailer ins every horse that enters must be stalled. Not our call that is a facility policy. They charge us $25 a night for each rig hooked up. We keep that fee level and have actually lost out at the end of the weekend by our count being different then theirs. We charge $55 a stall for a 2 day weekend show. opening the grounds on friday. we charge $60 a stall for a 3 day show opening the grounds on wednesday. the facility ups our perstall fee to $30 for this.
The extra we make on stalls and entry fees, goes to cover awards for the weekend, our judges, any hired arena help, the announcer...... We do try to show a profit at the end of the weekend. On a good weekend we have a profit of $3000-$4000. on a small weekend maybe $1000-$2000. All of our profits fund our year end awards and any expenses the club has through out the season. Our club works super hard to keep our expenses as low as we can to still make a profit but make it as cost friendly as possible so as to make our money on quantity of exhibitors.
There are Sooooooo many factors that go into what fees a show or race must charge that it is next to impossible to guess if its over priced or not. All you can do its determine if what you pay out is worth your enjoyment, entertainment, and possibly a payback at the end of a weekend. |
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| I went to a jackpot last night had 48 entered.. for TWO exhib it was $20.00!
I didnt run but i know the girl who won it, won the whole 1D and won about $140.
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| chandler321 - 2018-01-24 8:09 AM
I went to a jackpot last night had 48 entered.. for TWO exhib it was $20.00!
I didnt run but i know the girl who won it, won the whole 1D and won about $140.
I agree thats dumb. LOL Horses only have so many barrel racing runs in them, PERIOD. Doesn't matter how well you maintain or feed your horse. Someday they will run out of runs. Not worth it to outrun 47 horses for 140.00 |
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Location: who knows? | Another problem is....some producers will keep adding charges hoping noone calls them on it. For example, we have an association here putting on a futurity, and an open race. They added $3 to each go to every person to cover co-sanctioning cost for another club. So you have to pay co sanction fees even if your not a member of the other club. Well we as contestants called them on it, because there is no reason to pay a second club fees to run at the jackpot when you are not members. Needless to say they changed it to only those members wanting points in the second club have to pay the co sanctioning fee. The second club does this all over the west part of the country. If you feel something isnt right speak up and find out why... |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | FLITASTIC - 2018-01-23 9:43 AM
And the big Vegas super show NBHA, you HAVE to get a hotel room and YOU HAVE to get a stall. You can't haul in/out daily and stay off site. THats why I never go.
Same here. That plus the payouts vs. entries is why I won't enter the all in race in Vegas in December either. |
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pressure dripper
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Location: the end of the rainbow | FLITASTIC - 2018-01-24 8:29 AM
chandler321 - 2018-01-24 8:09 AM
I went to a jackpot last night had 48 entered.. for TWO exhib it was $20.00!
I didnt run but i know the girl who won it, won the whole 1D and won about $140.
I agree thats dumb. LOL Horses only have so many barrel racing runs in them, PERIOD. Doesn't matter how well you maintain or feed your horse. Someday they will run out of runs. Not worth it to outrun 47 horses for 140.0k0
It's crazy how out of hand the little local races are getting. I know our local producers do their best to keep it reasonable. We had one group that was starting to get spendy on fees and time onlies so a lot of us stopped going to their races and when they started advertising them this year on social media some of the gals started complaining. The producers listened and did their best to rework their race formats. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | I dont know what the stall price was for a barrel race here in Michigan but it was just for an evening event that lasted till 2 am in the morning and had to vacate the premises immediately after. My horse can stand tied to the trailer for 6 hours. It was more than I wanted to pay on top of a $25 entry fee. |
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | I feel like stall/ rv lot fees are to help counter the cost of insurance for the bigger shows as well. Those entry fees are going in the pot so something has to go towards rental/ insurances and hired help |
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