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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | She is the one to get horse slaughter stopped in the US. So much for helping the horses industry. |
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|  How does slaughter help the horse industry? I am not anti slaughter, there are worse things then a humane death but I have never thought of slaughter as necessary for the economics of the horse industry other than it provides a place for tracks, etc to dump unwanted horses.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:04 PM How does slaughter help the horse industry? 
This thread should be interesting.
I am pro slaughter as long as it is done in a humane way. Slaughter helps MANY people who are unable to care for horses with health problems. Peopl ewho can't afford to put one down. And people who can't afford to bury one.
In some counties in Texas it is illegal to bury a horse on your property. Private or not. Medication could slip into the water, etc.
You have to pay to put to sleep and pay to bury. It costs on average around 2-3k.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Theres so many unwanted horses now, its so sad that these horses have to suffer, if we dont have any slaughter houses theres going to be a flood of straving horses along with the ones out there now. About twice a month some one is trying to give me their horses because they cant feed them, they think with me having land I have room for one more horse, but they dont understand I still feed one the ones out in the pastures and the upkeep that gos along with having just one more horse added to the ones I already have. Two many back yard breeders that will just breed to anything that comes along, wish they would slow down on breeding Fluffy to Puffy down the road. 
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| IRunOnFaith - 2018-02-07 2:08 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:04 PM  How does slaughter help the horse industry? Â
This thread should be interesting.Â
I am pro slaughter as long as it is done in a humane way. Slaughter helps MANY people who are unable to care for horses with health problems. Peopl ewho can't afford to put one down. And people who can't afford to bury one.Â
In some counties in Texas it is illegal to bury a horse on your property. Private or not. Medication could slip into the water, etc.Â
You have to pay to put to sleep and pay to bury. It costs on average around 2-3k.Â
 I agree with all of this but my question is still how does it effect the horse industry as far as the price of buying and selling horses?  I don’t see where/how a horse ends up at the end of the road for it, whether it is put down or sold to the kill pen affecting the market. Edited to add that closing the plants in the US just subjected the horses to long trailer rides to an unregulated deaths across the border.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:27 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2018-02-07 2:08 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:04 PM  How does slaughter help the horse industry? Â
This thread should be interesting.Â
I am pro slaughter as long as it is done in a humane way. Slaughter helps MANY people who are unable to care for horses with health problems. Peopl ewho can't afford to put one down. And people who can't afford to bury one.Â
In some counties in Texas it is illegal to bury a horse on your property. Private or not. Medication could slip into the water, etc.Â
You have to pay to put to sleep and pay to bury. It costs on average around 2-3k.Â
I'm thinking he means that the horse market will get flooded with more horses if theres no way to get rid of the ones that are unwanted so the prices in selling may not be good for the breeders, maybe?  |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Southtxponygirl - 2018-02-07 2:32 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:27 PM IRunOnFaith - 2018-02-07 2:08 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:04 PM How does slaughter help the horse industry?
This thread should be interesting.
I am pro slaughter as long as it is done in a humane way. Slaughter helps MANY people who are unable to care for horses with health problems. Peopl ewho can't afford to put one down. And people who can't afford to bury one.
In some counties in Texas it is illegal to bury a horse on your property. Private or not. Medication could slip into the water, etc.
You have to pay to put to sleep and pay to bury. It costs on average around 2-3k. I'm thinking he means that the horse market will get flooded with more horses if theres no way to get rid of the ones that are unwanted so the prices in selling may not be good for the breeders, maybe?
I'm not sure there is a definite answer to your question. I think it's all opinion. Unless I saw the numbers on it I would think all the "facts" on helping or hurting the indusrty were all hearsay.
Maybe I am wrong. I don't claim to be educated, but I'm hoping someone who is a little wiser can give us some insight? I know it's a controversial topic but still... These are good questions. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 12:27 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2018-02-07 2:08 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:04 PM  How does slaughter help the horse industry? Â
This thread should be interesting.Â
I am pro slaughter as long as it is done in a humane way. Slaughter helps MANY people who are unable to care for horses with health problems. Peopl ewho can't afford to put one down. And people who can't afford to bury one.Â
In some counties in Texas it is illegal to bury a horse on your property. Private or not. Medication could slip into the water, etc.Â
You have to pay to put to sleep and pay to bury. It costs on average around 2-3k.Â
A slaughter bound horse provides a salvage value to any horse. $.xx/pound. Back when we still had the option to send horses to slaughter a good broke gelding in his prime was worth about $2,000 minimum. Now they are only worth a few hundred. Or nothing depending on the location. |
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Location: ND | rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 1:27 PM IRunOnFaith - 2018-02-07 2:08 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:04 PM How does slaughter help the horse industry?
This thread should be interesting.
I am pro slaughter as long as it is done in a humane way. Slaughter helps MANY people who are unable to care for horses with health problems. Peopl ewho can't afford to put one down. And people who can't afford to bury one.
In some counties in Texas it is illegal to bury a horse on your property. Private or not. Medication could slip into the water, etc.
You have to pay to put to sleep and pay to bury. It costs on average around 2-3k.
Legalizing slaughter in the states would increase the price of slaughter bound horses. It would remove the lower end horses that are currently in the slaughter house "rescue" type situations therefore driving UP the price of quality riding horses. There is not one bad thing about legal slaughter in this country, it helps the horses and it helps those of us selling/buying horses. |
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rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 1:27 PM IRunOnFaith - 2018-02-07 2:08 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:04 PM  How does slaughter help the horse industry? Â
This thread should be interesting.Â
I am pro slaughter as long as it is done in a humane way. Slaughter helps MANY people who are unable to care for horses with health problems. Peopl ewho can't afford to put one down. And people who can't afford to bury one.Â
In some counties in Texas it is illegal to bury a horse on your property. Private or not. Medication could slip into the water, etc.Â
You have to pay to put to sleep and pay to bury. It costs on average around 2-3k.Â
I agree with SaraJean. I personally am pro-slaughter, and believe it should be done in a humane way.
I strongly oppose people turning their domesticated horses loose into the wilderness, expecting them to be able to fend for themselves like wild horses do, because the owners are no longer able to afford the horse and humane horse slaughter is not an option, and no one else is willing to take the horse (because they're inundated with horses themselves). People are still sending horses off to slaughter- they're just having their horses shipped to Canada and Mexico to be slaughtered, causing undue suffering on the animals. Just think about how many slaughterhouses there are for beef cows, pigs, etc. and if those animals had to travel from wherever they were in the US to Canada or Mexico to be slaughtered. Humane slaughter fills a much needed void in this country.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | OregonBR - 2018-02-07 6:37 PM
rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 12:27 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2018-02-07 2:08 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:04 PM  How does slaughter help the horse industry? Â
This thread should be interesting.Â
I am pro slaughter as long as it is done in a humane way. Slaughter helps MANY people who are unable to care for horses with health problems. Peopl ewho can't afford to put one down. And people who can't afford to bury one.Â
In some counties in Texas it is illegal to bury a horse on your property. Private or not. Medication could slip into the water, etc.Â
You have to pay to put to sleep and pay to bury. It costs on average around 2-3k.Â
A slaughter bound horse provides a salvage value to any horse. $.xx/pound. Back when we still had the option to send horses to slaughter a good broke gelding in his prime was worth about $2,000 minimum. Now they are only worth a few hundred. Or nothing depending on the location.
^^this...
From past observations, it sets a base price for horses. Basically, you can get a “per pound” price for ANY horse, so that’s where your prices start. When they took away slaughter in the US, that's when I saw very cheap & free horses become common.
Also, I personally knew of many sales where it was not fully disclosed that the horse was going to slaughter, when slaughter was local. For some reason (I’m not big into auction/sale barn transaction) but, it seems like the average horse owner now knows when a kill buyer is looking at their horse and they refuse to sell or would rather give it away to a pet only home (flooding the market). Probably because, when slaughter was local, a guy would show up (possibly with a grand child in tow, or some other scam) and load your one horse into a bumper pull stock trailer and act like it was going to a good home. Whereas, now... they don’t go through so much trouble and the fact that your horse is about to get loaded onto an 18 wheeler is more obvious. But, that’s just my opinion on that.... |
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| OregonBR - 2018-02-07 6:37 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 12:27 PM IRunOnFaith - 2018-02-07 2:08 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-02-07 2:04 PM How does slaughter help the horse industry?
This thread should be interesting.
I am pro slaughter as long as it is done in a humane way. Slaughter helps MANY people who are unable to care for horses with health problems. Peopl ewho can't afford to put one down. And people who can't afford to bury one.
In some counties in Texas it is illegal to bury a horse on your property. Private or not. Medication could slip into the water, etc.
You have to pay to put to sleep and pay to bury. It costs on average around 2-3k. A slaughter bound horse provides a salvage value to any horse. $.xx/pound. Back when we still had the option to send horses to slaughter a good broke gelding in his prime was worth about $2,000 minimum. Now they are only worth a few hundred. Or nothing depending on the location.
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Â If we had local slaughterhouses the value of the horse would improve by the cost of freight saved.
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