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| I have a mare that is just coming 6 that I can tell some things aren’t quite right but I can’t pinpoint what’s going on.
Here is a little background history on her. I bought her as a 3 year old and the previous owners put a hormonal implant in her neck so she wouldn’t come into heat. As a 4 year old I didn’t put her back on anything and let her come back into heat. Her heat cycles were horrible as a 4 year old and she was in heat all the time and very sore when she was in. As a 5 year old they weren’t quite as bad but she does still seem to be in heat all time. The vet said it usually takes 2 years once they have that implant for them to get back to having normal heat cycles.
This mare always seemed a little cinchy when I first cinch her up. I did try putting her on ulcerguard for the recommended amount of days earlier in the summer and it didn’t seem to help much. When I took her to the chiropractor he showed me that her saddle was pinching her and when I switched her to a different one the cinchiness went away for the most part and she seemed a lot more comfortable.
In October, I was at a weekend race out of town and went to check on her before I went to bed and she was all hunched up in her stall like she was colicky. We gave her some banamine and she seemed to come right out of it. However, the next day she ate and drank fine and when I took her to the trailer she was all hunched up again. I walked her around for a while and she seemed to come out of it. The next day she acted completely back to normal and I had her and my other horse tied to the trailer and went to check which number they were on at the race. When I came back she was all hunched up again. I walked her around and she came out of it again. On my way home, I stopped at my local vet and they ran a few tests on her but couldn’t come up with anything to make them think it was Colic. We thought maybe she had cysts or something since she is in heat all the time and she seems to be peeing all the time. They ultrasounded her and said everything looked normal. They also thought maybe it could be her kidneys since she drinks a ton of water compared to my other horse and seems to be thirsty all the time but the bloodwork came back normal for that also. I’m just starting to get her legged back up again for this year and have noticed she is horribly sore over her hips and kidneys again so I’m lost as to what could be going on.
She is on a 50/50 mix of grass and alfalfa though she won’t eat the alfalfa leaves. She always leaves the leaves in the bottom of her feeder. She has done this since I have owned her. She is fed a half coffee can of Total Equine once a day. I did try putting her on Silver Linings Mare Mix. I put her on it during the race in October and just recently before I started riding her but have quit, thinking maybe that is contributing to her soreness since it’s coincidental she has been really sore the two times I have tried to feed it to her.
I’m not sure if it’s ulcers, hormonal issues or kidney issues. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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| What's her breeding? Sounds like she's tying up possibly.
Has she been 5 panel tested? HYPP or PSSM come to mind. |
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| She is Special Effort/On a High on the sire side and Noble Pride/Dash for Cash/Alamitos Bar on the bottom side. I used to have a mare that tied up all the time and this one is different so I'm not sure on that. This one doesn't get completely stiff and sore all over like my other mare did. Even when she was hunched up she still moved pretty good. One thing I also forgot to mention is she is showing some mild signs of laminitis in the right front hoof but not the others. I have been thinking of having her 5 panel tested. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | My mare had kidney stones and her BUNN and Creatitine levels came back in the high normal range. Didn't find the kidney stones until we ultrasounded for them. |
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| run n rate - 2018-02-05 12:40 PM
My mare had kidney stones and her BUNN and Creatitine levels came back in the high normal range. Didn't find the kidney stones until we ultrasounded for them.
I believe they ultrasounded to check for that as well on her. I will get a hold of my vet to double check. What did you have to do to get rid of the stones in case in might be that? |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Did they shave her sides? If not maybe not such a good picture of the kidneys as they are deep, hence the reason you can't do the ultrasound wave thing to break stones up in an equine kidney and I forget, but either the right or left one is also under like the pancreas or another organ.
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Location: IL | Did they check for a urinary tract infection? I would also have an over all lameness exam done. Make sure she isn't sore in hocks, or feet. If everything comes back normal maybe get the implant again? Was she sore like this with the implant in? Or get her spayed? Just suggestions |
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| I would start by taking her completely off of the alfalfa. Plus, making sure that her feed doesn't contain alfalfa or soy. If she already won't eat the leaves then I would take that as a sign that she is trying to tell me something. A gal I just bought a trailer from was telling me about a mare that was having a very similar reaction to alfalfa.
Realistically, it could be a combination of all 3 of the issues that you asked about and even her liver function. |
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| wishingforsun - 2018-02-06 6:44 PM
I would start by taking her completely off of the alfalfa. Plus, making sure that her feed doesn't contain alfalfa or soy. If she already won't eat the leaves then I would take that as a sign that she is trying to tell me something. A gal I just bought a trailer from was telling me about a mare that was having a very similar reaction to alfalfa.
Realistically, it could be a combination of all 3 of the issues that you asked about and even her liver function.
Thank you for the advice! I have been feeding the Total Equine and did see it has soy so I have taken her off of it and will look for something more natural. She doesn't like oats either so I'm assuming they must bother her also. I'm going to try switching her to straight grass and see if that helps. |
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| merdth6 - 2018-02-06 1:22 PM
Did they check for a urinary tract infection? I would also have an over all lameness exam done. Make sure she isn't sore in hocks, or feet. If everything comes back normal maybe get the implant again? Was she sore like this with the implant in? Or get her spayed? Just suggestions
They did check for a urinary tract infection and said she was good there. She wasn't sore like this when I first got her when she had the implant but all the vets have suggested to stay away from that implant. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | Are you in an area of low selineum? Are you feeding EFA's? The best source of EFA's is Hemp oil. It helps a lot with any inflammation. |
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| Look up curost ( nouvelle research) - dr Schell has tons of articles tons and tons of info - you can also email him with what you are dealing with and he will respond usually the next day- he is wonderful and I highly recommend following his advice- I personally have spent a lot of $ trying to fix things over the years and I finally just followed exactly what he said and symptoms just started disappearing 1 by 1 and now my boys are probably the healthiest they have been in years and I haven’t had to go to the vet near as much - I will say the curost supps are pricey but my vet,feed, and meds have cut down soooooo much that the curost more than pays for itself! |
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| shilohorse - 2018-02-07 12:00 AM
Look up curost ( nouvelle research) - dr Schell has tons of articles tons and tons of info - you can also email him with what you are dealing with and he will respond usually the next day- he is wonderful and I highly recommend following his advice- I personally have spent a lot of $ trying to fix things over the years and I finally just followed exactly what he said and symptoms just started disappearing 1 by 1 and now my boys are probably the healthiest they have been in years and I haven’t had to go to the vet near as much - I will say the curost supps are pricey but my vet,feed, and meds have cut down soooooo much that the curost more than pays for itself!
I had never heard of Curost before. I looked it up and it looks like good stuff. Do you know what the main difference is between it and animal element or silver lining herbs? I sent them a message but haven't gotten a response
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