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Wobblers- Breeding a mare with it?

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bquick
Reg. Sep 2014
Posted 2018-02-14 4:44 PM
Subject: Wobblers- Breeding a mare with it?


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Would you breed a mare with wobblers? There's a chance it is from trauma, but of course there is a chance it is genetic and could pass it on but we wouldn't know till we actually bred her. She is bred NICE and has proven siblings that DO NOT have wobblers.

She is still young so she will proceed to get worse so we would flush her and not have her carry. I still have to talk to insurance to see what is "allowed" now that she is confirmed with wobblers. We were given the option to put her down but we have been seeking other options and opinions and had sent her radiographs to the board of radiologists before we made the drastic decision...everyone is unfortunately on the same page with her diagnosis and the severity.

She is NOT in pain according to the vets, but she is some what neurological from the compression on the spinal cord.
What would you do? Flush? Put down? Let her live out her life? I have never been in this position, and I am devastated.
I am relieved she is not in pain, but I don't think it is fair to her to live out a neurological life when she will eventually get to the point of hurting herself or others because it will continue to get worse as she grows.


Prayers for her and prayers I am pointed in the right direction with my decision for her. I wish she could speak to me.

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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2018-02-14 4:56 PM
Subject: RE: Wobblers- Breeding a mare with it?


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I had a scare last year with a gelding that was misdiagnosed with wobblers. A Myleogram proved otherwise, no compression.  My heart breaks for you though, as I know how terrible the news was at first.
As for breeding, I would base it on how nuero she is. Slightly off, might be ok for a year or 2, but from all the research I have done it progresses. I would actually be less worried about it being genetic because that is fairly rare. Fast growing horses, horses fed up like a fat steer have more issues with it than it actually being a case by case genetic/bloodline thing.

Seattle Slew had it and received a couple of surgeries through the years to minimize the compression with basket like attachments to his vertebra. He successfully live covered mares for years.

Is this a new to you mare? Did she have a fall? What neuro signs does she show? Unless they have done a mylegram, it is often misdiagnosed. My gelding was 6 and showed arthritis along his vertebra so it was instantly thought he had wobblers, although at the same time this vet and others later, said it is not all that uncommon for young riding horses to have some signs of arthritis. It's because they weren't exactly designed for us to ride them.

Vitamin E is good for nerve healing/function. That might be beneficial if she does have mild compression at this point. Just some ideas I am thinking of.


Edited by wyoming barrel racer 2018-02-14 4:57 PM
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2018-02-14 6:15 PM
Subject: RE: Wobblers- Breeding a mare with it?



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I’m sorry to read this. Wobblers sucks. I lost one to injury related wobblers. It took about 7 years. He was great until the last two years of his life. He’d be fine one day and the next couldn’t hardly walk. Then he’d be decent for a few weeks. It got progressively worse until he went down one night and was in a lot of pain. We had to destroy him because it was a Sunday and the local vet refused to leave church.

From my experience...if flushing your mare is an option, I’d do that. You just don’t know how a wobbler will be from one day to the next. I would have her put down before you end up with no choice and no options. It was heartbreaking for us to have to be the ones to literally end Sidekick’s suffering.

Is injecting the injured area an option? If you catch it soon enough, you can prolong them showing neuro signs by injecting via ultrasound.

Like Krystal said, genetic wobblers is rare. It’s usually injury related or growth related and neither of those are genetic.
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2018-02-15 9:20 AM
Subject: RE: Wobblers- Breeding a mare with it?


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While it may not be genetic I think the strain of pregnancy would still be really hard on the mare.  I dont think I would breed one with wobblers, for more than 1 reason.  
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madredepeanut
Reg. Aug 2017
Posted 2018-02-16 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Wobblers- Breeding a mare with it?





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We wouldn’t breed a mare with Wobblers, and here’s some of our reasoning:

The University of Kentucky bred confirmed affected mares to confirmed affected stallions, and even though none of the foals born were confirmed affected with Wobblers, they did have higher rates of OCD, physitis and other developmental diseases. There are definitely genetic components to the disease, and researchers are still trying to piece it all together.

If the mare is still young and already affected to the severity that everyone agrees to, if she isn’t happy being a horse and you see her continue to go downhill, then I wouldn’t want her suffering. Trying to breed her and have her carry a foal (or even using a recip mare to flush an embryo or two) could be extremely taxing on your mare.

Worst case scenario, but with the neurological signs she’s showing, what if she becomes unsteady on her feet in the stocks while being palpated or flushed and goes down and breaks a leg?


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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2018-02-16 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: Wobblers- Breeding a mare with it?



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Nope..nadda and never....hard enough on them with wobblers. ..M
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