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Location: North Texas | 1DSoon - 2018-01-18 10:02 AM
3canstorun - 2018-01-18 10:05 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2018-01-18 9:41 AM Lucylouwon - 2018-01-18 8:07 AM CDL-A = Combination vehicle. ELD's are HARD wired to the ECM of the "power unit" they have the ability to track "teams". The trouble is.... that DOT is cracking down on "personal Conveyance" or when the vehicle is used in the case of a pickup... driven to the grocery store. The other problem is if you have a 40 hour a week job... those 40 hours are considered "on duty" time and tracks against your available time for weekend driving. Yes, that is correct, I've been through a DOT audit. So.... You drive to work, work, drive home... all of those hours will count against the 70 hour rule for the weekend. So in other words, your out of hours before you go to the barrel race. The ELD rule has been coming for over TWO YEARS... where was the outrage then? Where was the outrage? No one knew about it.
So, if you don't read those things, you didn't know. The ELD manufacturers are the ones pushing hard for this - think lobbyists. Just another get me and a way to sell a product.
It wasn't until it actually passed, (was posted on the federal register for more then two years), that people got into an uproar. The livestock community and haulers should have, could have, etc., got it stopped a lot earlier then they did. But, as usual, this group, that group etc., not one group alone has enough power and/or money to hire the best lobbyists.
it's being pushed much harder by the big boys.
JB Hunt, Schnieder, etc.
They will use it as a means of cutting the O/O out of the loop
Precisely. Same way as the Hours of Service is used.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I’ve never read a trucking magazine in my life.  | |
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Location: North Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2018-01-18 11:26 AM
I’ve never read a trucking magazine in my life.
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 Just a Yankee
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Location: Some where I haven't left yet | foundation horse - 2018-01-18 12:41 PM Three 4 Luck - 2018-01-18 11:26 AM I’ve never read a trucking magazine in my life. You might learn something!
I think it's good to have knowlege of trucking after all it's "Supply Chain" and companies like mine haul your food. It would also educate you on the current proposed rule making to pave the way for "self driving trucks." If the idea of a self driving truck weighing 80K with a computer that is easily hackable doesn't scare you then someone should check your pulse. (recently one killed quite a few and injured many more when the computer sped the truck up in a construction zone) Speed limiters, self driving trucks, personal use on ELD's, etc etc. All things that the government is currently pushing for trucking.... Remember - Control interstate commerce.... Control the people. | |
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Just a Yankee
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Location: Some where I haven't left yet | foundation horse - 2018-01-18 9:25 AM 1DSoon - 2018-01-18 10:02 AM 3canstorun - 2018-01-18 10:05 AM Three 4 Luck - 2018-01-18 9:41 AM Lucylouwon - 2018-01-18 8:07 AM CDL-A = Combination vehicle. ELD's are HARD wired to the ECM of the "power unit" they have the ability to track "teams". The trouble is.... that DOT is cracking down on "personal Conveyance" or when the vehicle is used in the case of a pickup... driven to the grocery store. The other problem is if you have a 40 hour a week job... those 40 hours are considered "on duty" time and tracks against your available time for weekend driving. Yes, that is correct, I've been through a DOT audit. So.... You drive to work, work, drive home... all of those hours will count against the 70 hour rule for the weekend. So in other words, your out of hours before you go to the barrel race. The ELD rule has been coming for over TWO YEARS... where was the outrage then? Where was the outrage? No one knew about it.
So, if you don't read those things, you didn't know. The ELD manufacturers are the ones pushing hard for this - think lobbyists. Just another get me and a way to sell a product.
It wasn't until it actually passed, (was posted on the federal register for more then two years), that people got into an uproar. The livestock community and haulers should have, could have, etc., got it stopped a lot earlier then they did. But, as usual, this group, that group etc., not one group alone has enough power and/or money to hire the best lobbyists. it's being pushed much harder by the big boys. JB Hunt, Schnieder, etc. They will use it as a means of cutting the O/O out of the loop Precisely. Same way as the Hours of Service is used.
Werner Boasts of being the first companies with ELD's ... However, what they are leaving out is that the ELD's were required or DOT was going to Shut them down. It's not safety its Punishment. | |
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 I hate cooking and cleaning
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Location: Jersey Girl | All this info is confusing and worrisome. I haven't barrel raced in 2 1/2 years and was hoping to get back to it again this spring. BUT I think I am going to just do game shows for a while and what and see what happens in my area in regards if the DOT is going to crack down or not on horse owners. | |
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I hate cooking and cleaning
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Location: Jersey Girl | More info:
http://www.horsecouncil.org/press-release/ahc-meets-dot-fmcsa/
This excerpt is from the info in the link, I think it's good news but sounds like we need to check with our individual states.
The DOT members present did clarify that trailer drivers not engaged in business are not subject to Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) regulations, specifically where additional licensing is concerned. Regardless of weight, it was the interpretation of those present that going to an event that may issue prizes does not necessarily constitute commercial activity. As long as participation in the competition itself is not a component of the business with which that driver or the vehicle are regularly engaged, and expenses for said trip are not deducted for tax purposes, a CDL is not required to operate the CMV in question. Those interpretations, as are all CMV regulations, are specific to federal regulations, and state regulations may be less forgiving.
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| I have not read all the pages so forgive me if this has been posted. At a recent meeting hosted by county dps they said your insurance may not cover you in case of accident if you don’t have the correct license, it is just not the fines you need to be worried about. What a mess | |
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