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Location: South Georgia | What would you expect to pay for a running-bred prospect loping circles and trained with the very basics, ready to polish (add finishing touches) and start on the pattern?
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  Champ
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Gosh. There are such a wide range of prices. I know what my budget would be. But there are some super well bred prospects that would break my bank to buy them. AND be outside my comfort zone with the risk of paying so much for something that eats and can die. LOL
IMO you should be able to find a well bred well taken care of prospect with good breeding (probably a grandson or daughter of one of the top level stallions) for between 5K and 10K and be happy with them. |
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The One
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Location: South Georgia | My budget is $3,000-$3,500, which I thought was very reasonable for something pretty lightly started, but it is so challenging to find something that fits the bill. Just frustrating. Wanted to know if I was being unreasonable. To me, $3500 is a lot of money for a prospect. But, I guess I am in the minority. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | you can find $3500 horses.
But they will be $3500 horses.
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Champ
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | To me that's too low. Just a weanling is going to cost that much. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | 1DSoon - 2018-05-03 8:21 AM
you can find $3500 horses.
But they will be $3500 horses.
Actually I agree with this.
You can always find bargains too. But if a wormy, underfed, randomly bred 2 or 3 year old is what you're after, they are out there. But there's some risk in the fact they haven't been wormed or fed well to reach their potential. AND there will always be people who get in a mess and need money who are willing to sell for under the animals market value. You just have to be there with the money in hand to pick up the bargain. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | This may sound insane but it's true. If you look for a 5 or 6 year old that hasn't been started on barrels, they can be bought pretty reasonable. The reason for that is, they aren't futurity material anymore. So you might be able to find something in the range your talking about that has been left behind in training but still is a good horse to start for the D races. If you don't futurity, it wouldn't matter.
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Location: Illinois | I got a nicely bred 3 year old that wasn't going to make futurities for half price simply because she was so behind & they needed to sell her to bring another one to the trainer where she was at. She sold for $7,500 as a yearling, then had 60 days on her, plus paid in full to FF and I picked her up for $5K. I was more than happy with that price for her breeding. I think you should be able to find something to fit your budget if you're willing to really dig around, ask around, & be patient about it. Probably won't find anything with big names really close up, but something decent bred maybe. If its older, 5 or 6 you can often get them even cheaper than a 3-4 year old lightly started. I've had a couple friends get basic broke 6 year olds for a steal this spring just because no one wants to deal with a 6 year old that barely follows its nose still |
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Location: N Texas | You can definitely find something in that price range, you just probably won't recognize any of the close-up names on the papers. |
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Location: Wyoming | Price depends on how well bred, how young, colt or filly, if you plan to breed, if you plan to futurity. |
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Location: WI | All of the above... just depends on how well running bred.
Check out the Heritage Place sale results and you will find something there in any of those categories - all running bred. |
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| 1DSoon - 2018-05-03 10:21 AM
you can find $3500 horses.
But they will be $3500 horses.
I actually agree with 1D for once
You can get a cheap horse off the track with no training nicely bred for $2500 if you know the owner or trainer. Now ppl flipping them buy from their contacts and re-sell for 4k-7500.
If they are loping circles nicely and ready to start the pattern and it's $3500 that thing is cripple as a ran over dog.
If you want something nice but can't afford anything over 4k. I recommend either taking out a small personal loan or saving your money. It will save you money in vet bills and heart ache later.
The cost of raising a foal to yearling is at least 5k if your doing it right. So if it is something someone has raised, bought to re-sale, etc they have put time and money into it and they want to be compensated for their time and expenses. |
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| runfastturnsmooth - 2018-05-03 12:02 PM 1DSoon - 2018-05-03 10:21 AM you can find $3500 horses.
But they will be $3500 horses.
I actually agree with 1D for once You can get a cheap horse off the track with no training nicely bred for $2500 if you know the owner or trainer. Now ppl flipping them buy from their contacts and re-sell for 4k-7500. If they are loping circles nicely and ready to start the pattern and it's $3500 that thing is cripple as a ran over dog. If you want something nice but can't afford anything over 4k. I recommend either taking out a small personal loan or saving your money. It will save you money in vet bills and heart ache later. The cost of raising a foal to yearling is at least 5k if your doing it right. So if it is something someone has raised, bought to re-sale, etc they have put time and money into it and they want to be compensated for their time and expenses.
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Location: OH | OregonBR - 2018-05-03 11:21 AM To me that's too low. Just a weanling is going to cost that much.
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Location: Claremore, OK | If it has Proven bloodlines for barrels, started as you describe, $7500 and up.
ETA: if it’s that cheap, off the track, with riding, there’s a reason. ($3500)
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-05-03 1:02 PM 1DSoon - 2018-05-03 10:21 AM you can find $3500 horses.
But they will be $3500 horses.
I actually agree with 1D for once You can get a cheap horse off the track with no training nicely bred for $2500 if you know the owner or trainer. Now ppl flipping them buy from their contacts and re-sell for 4k-7500. If they are loping circles nicely and ready to start the pattern and it's $3500 that thing is cripple as a ran over dog. If you want something nice but can't afford anything over 4k. I recommend either taking out a small personal loan or saving your money. It will save you money in vet bills and heart ache later. The cost of raising a foal to yearling is at least 5k if your doing it right. So if it is something someone has raised, bought to re-sale, etc they have put time and money into it and they want to be compensated for their time and expenses.
It feels pretty good to be right for a change.
Doesn't it?
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Location: Duvall, WA | Nice horses are expensive these days. I agree that it would be very hard to find something race-bred for $3,500. A good weanling with nice but not fancy parents is $5,000 anymore. I remember watching a cute, lazy, green-broke cow-bred gelding at a sale a few years ago, I assumed he would go for around $4,000, he went for $10,000. The person sitting next to me said--you just can't find a $3,500 horse anymore. I would say $6-7K would be a more realistic price range. Sorry! Keep saving and get something nice, life is short, you won't regret it. |
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The One
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Location: South Georgia | Thank you all very much. This definitely helps me put this whole situation into perspective. I guess times have changed. I have been in horses my whole life in various disciplines (saddleseat, western pleasure, halter, and barrels), but to me, I always ended up purchasing and getting lucky on steals of a deal. Now that I'm on the hunt for a new barrel horse after having to retire my mare with lameness issues, I am finding virtually nothing in what I thought was a reasonable price range. Looks like I need to save, and/or drive myself insane sifting through all of the ads tryiing to find a deal. LOL
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| Whiteboy - 2018-05-03 12:10 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2018-05-03 12:02 PM 1DSoon - 2018-05-03 10:21 AM you can find $3500 horses.
But they will be $3500 horses.
I actually agree with 1D for once You can get a cheap horse off the track with no training nicely bred for $2500 if you know the owner or trainer. Now ppl flipping them buy from their contacts and re-sell for 4k-7500. If they are loping circles nicely and ready to start the pattern and it's $3500 that thing is cripple as a ran over dog. If you want something nice but can't afford anything over 4k. I recommend either taking out a small personal loan or saving your money. It will save you money in vet bills and heart ache later. The cost of raising a foal to yearling is at least 5k if your doing it right. So if it is something someone has raised, bought to re-sale, etc they have put time and money into it and they want to be compensated for their time and expenses.
If your smart it better. I can't imagine anyone in their right mind raising babies and not at least pricing them at 5k with the cost of stud fee, vet, farrier, dental, feed, and hay.
Gotta know when to cut your loses and sell that sucker before you lose on it.
ANNNND always take those offers when you weren't wanting to sell LOL
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