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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2018-05-06 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: Banamine IM Injection




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Mis_Trev - 2018-05-03 11:12 PM

I don’t want to start a lynch mob - just looking for similar experiences only!!!

We had a horse that was given a small banamine injection in its neck Monday late afternoon. We were out of town and he’s was acting sore so since we were out of bute the person gave 3cc of banamine on his left neck... Timeline goes:

- Monday night we got home about 10pm and the horse was fine.
- Tuesday morning there was just a small amount of swelling at injection site.
- Tuesday afternoon it was a bit bigger (1” wide x 2” long). Called vet and they said to start icing and give bute.
- Wednesday morning swelling was down just slightly, but by Wednesday night up just slightly (still less than Tuesday). Continued ice and bute.
- Thursday morning slightly less or close to same amount of swelling as Wednesday.
- Called vet this afternoon to update, and they highly suggested to put Surpass on it as well... so I’ve started that as of this evening.

The swelling has not grown and seems to be going down as a super super slow rate. I take his temperature daily and it remains normal. He acts 100% normal with lots of energy and usual morning whinnies and bucking until fed. There is no other swelling around head, neck or chest - and no feeling of ‘bubble wrap or air under the skin’. No soreness in neck - can flex both ways and loves his normal nightly scratches.

Has anyone else dealt with this?
How long did it take the swelling to go away?
Did an infection every come of it?
Dr. Google says it can take up to 2 weeks to see the infection!?!?
Am I overreacting??? Lol

I am watching him carefully as I’m afraid of that horrible infection. My vet doesn’t seem too worried about it with the small swelling only, but wants to stay updated daily.

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I am surprised that no one has identified the real use that banamine was
invented for. It is designed to relax the digestive system for horses that
are having gut pains for colic or other reasons.

THE MAIN PROBLEM is the vets using banamine as a general pain medicine
and making it their number one overall body pain killer. This has increased
its use by nervous, untrained shot givers which is the 2nd main problem.

Whatever happened to Ace and Rompun or simple mixtures to reduce a horses
pain without the issues of using banamine ??

Before these drugs were invented plain old powdered aspirin was used and still
is used and it is the only one that affects swelling, pain and inflammation all at
one time. IMO the reason aspirin is not used is simple .... it is cheap, affective
and very little money to be made by the horse drug companies ..

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barrelracingchick16
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2018-05-06 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: Banamine IM Injection



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BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-05-06 12:07 AM
******************************************************* ******************************************************* I am surprised that no one has identified the real use that banamine was invented for. It is designed to relax the digestive system for horses that are having gut pains for colic or other reasons. THE MAIN PROBLEM is the vets using banamine as a general pain medicine and making it their number one overall body pain killer. This has increased its use by nervous, untrained shot givers which is the 2nd main problem. Whatever happened to Ace and Rompun or simple mixtures to reduce a horses pain without the issues of using banamine ?? Before these drugs were invented plain old powdered aspirin was used and still is used and it is the only one that affects swelling, pain and inflammation all at one time. IMO the reason aspirin is not used is simple .... it is cheap, affective and very little money to be made by the horse drug companies ..







As a veterinarian I completely disagree with this statement.  I absolutely and positively do NOT prescribe banamine as a "general pain medicine".  YES, there are certain instances where I believe banamine does a better job at pain control.  These include colic/abdominal pain scenarios and eye-related pain issues. We wont even go into the statement about the aspirin-simply put it is absolutely the lesser pain relieving option out there for horses. There have been multiple studies proving this.

    As far as the labeling goes, YES, banamine is still labeled to be given IM. Frustrates the heck out of me every single day! I will still get old timers argue with me when I tell them that they should NOT give their horse banamine in the muscle. Ultimately the reason it is still labeled as such is because it takes a LOT of money to re-label a product. This has been stated to me by many drug reps. 

    Ultimately whenever I prescribe banamine I recommended IV, and if owners are not comfortable with doing IV shots I tell them the only other option is oral. Oral will work, to a lesser extent and take longer to kick in but is MUCH better than a myositis reaction due to IM administration. 

Edited by barrelracingchick16 2018-05-06 10:42 AM
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barrelracinbroke
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2018-05-06 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: Banamine IM Injection



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barrelracingchick16 - 2018-05-06 8:41 AM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2018-05-06 12:07 AM
******************************************************* ******************************************************* I am surprised that no one has identified the real use that banamine was invented for. It is designed to relax the digestive system for horses that are having gut pains for colic or other reasons. THE MAIN PROBLEM is the vets using banamine as a general pain medicine and making it their number one overall body pain killer. This has increased its use by nervous, untrained shot givers which is the 2nd main problem. Whatever happened to Ace and Rompun or simple mixtures to reduce a horses pain without the issues of using banamine ?? Before these drugs were invented plain old powdered aspirin was used and still is used and it is the only one that affects swelling, pain and inflammation all at one time. IMO the reason aspirin is not used is simple .... it is cheap, affective and very little money to be made by the horse drug companies ..
As a veterinarian I completely disagree with this statement.  I absolutely and positively do NOT prescribe banamine as a "general pain medicine".  YES, there are certain instances where I believe banamine does a better job at pain control.  These include colic/abdominal pain scenarios and eye-related pain issues. We wont even go into the statement about the aspirin-simply put it is absolutely the lesser pain relieving option out there for horses. There have been multiple studies proving this.



    As far as the labeling goes, YES, banamine is still labeled to be given IM. Frustrates the heck out of me every single day! I will still get old timers argue with me when I tell them that they should NOT give their horse banamine in the muscle. Ultimately the reason it is still labeled as such is because it takes a LOT of money to re-label a product. This has been stated to me by many drug reps. 



    Ultimately whenever I prescribe banamine I recommended IV, and if owners are not comfortable with doing IV shots I tell them the only other option is oral. Oral will work, to a lesser extent and take longer to kick in but is MUCH better than a myositis reaction due to IM administration. 
 
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