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Location: SW MO | Hey all! I’m linking some videos below of my mare. I’m starting her on the pattern right now and would love to have some of you give your insight and help me figure out what I can improve on.
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Location: WYOMING | Looking good!!
I noticed you were really pulling her nose around on most of your exits. This can eventually cause her shoulder drift out on the exit just the opposite of why you are pulling so hard. This causes them to exit wide when speed is added.
I would teach her on the exit to move her shoulder to finish (I use my outside rein a lot for this) and not teach her that this is a place you will be pulling on her face. Will make a quicker, snappier exit.
The mare in this video has been taught to move her shoulder and finish the turn when the outside rein hits her neck. No time wasted pulling her to finish her turn. Plus it creates a better body position and line to the next barrel when they leave with their necks not bent from pulling.
https://youtu.be/ZGifPo57v5c
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| I'd work on teaching her to drive from behind and engage her hip more. She's losing momentum on the back side of each barrel and it's going to be easier to teach her how to use her body now while everything is still slow as opposed going back and trying to fix problems later. |
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Location: SW MO | geronabean - 2018-05-09 11:56 AM
Looking good!!
I noticed you were really pulling her nose around on most of your exits. This can eventually cause her shoulder drift out on the exit just the opposite of why you are pulling so hard. This causes them to exit wide when speed is added.
I would teach her on the exit to move her shoulder to finish (I use my outside rein a lot for this ) and not teach her that this is a place you will be pulling on her face. Will make a quicker, snappier exit.
The mare in this video has been taught to move her shoulder and finish the turn when the outside rein hits her neck. No time wasted pulling her to finish her turn. Plus it creates a better line to the next barrel when they leave with their necks not bent from pulling.
https://youtu.be/ZGifPo57v5c
How would I teach this going slower, like at the walk? |
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Location: SW MO | rpreast - 2018-05-09 11:57 AM
I'd work on teaching her to drive from behind and engage her hip more. She's losing momentum on the back side of each barrel and it's going to be easier to teach her how to use her body now while everything is still slow as opposed going back and trying to fix problems later.
What are some ways I can work on this? |
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| https://www.trainingbarrelhorses.com/video-vault/barrel-horse-traini...
https://www.trainingbarrelhorses.com/video-vault/barrel-horse-traini...
A couple different perspectives on this. I like Stevi's methods just because that's how I've learned to ride and control a horses body. But this site has lots of different opinions/techniques on the same topics. |
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Location: WYOMING | Mzbradford - 2018-05-09 1:07 PM
geronabean - 2018-05-09 11:56 AM
Looking good!!
I noticed you were really pulling her nose around on most of your exits. This can eventually cause her shoulder drift out on the exit just the opposite of why you are pulling so hard. This causes them to exit wide when speed is added.
I would teach her on the exit to move her shoulder to finish (I use my outside rein a lot for this ) and not teach her that this is a place you will be pulling on her face. Will make a quicker, snappier exit.
The mare in this video has been taught to move her shoulder and finish the turn when the outside rein hits her neck. No time wasted pulling her to finish her turn. Plus it creates a better line to the next barrel when they leave with their necks not bent from pulling.
https://youtu.be/ZGifPo57v5c
How would I teach this going slower, like at the walk?
Yes. You can look at beginning reining horse spin videos by Larry Trocha and they will help you understand the fundamentals. I just adapted these beginning spin moves to barrel horse training and turning. I over emphasize the importance of the outside rein once my horses understand the mechanics of the spin. |
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Location: SW MO | geronabean - 2018-05-09 12:35 PM
Mzbradford - 2018-05-09 1:07 PM
geronabean - 2018-05-09 11:56 AM
Looking good!!
I noticed you were really pulling her nose around on most of your exits. This can eventually cause her shoulder drift out on the exit just the opposite of why you are pulling so hard. This causes them to exit wide when speed is added.
I would teach her on the exit to move her shoulder to finish (I use my outside rein a lot for this ) and not teach her that this is a place you will be pulling on her face. Will make a quicker, snappier exit.
The mare in this video has been taught to move her shoulder and finish the turn when the outside rein hits her neck. No time wasted pulling her to finish her turn. Plus it creates a better line to the next barrel when they leave with their necks not bent from pulling.
https://youtu.be/ZGifPo57v5c
How would I teach this going slower, like at the walk?
Yes. You can look at beginning reining horse spin videos by Larry Trocha and they will help you understand the fundamentals. I just adapted these beginning spin moves to barrel horse training and turning. I over emphasize the importance of the outside rein once my horses understand the mechanics of the spin.
Thank you I definitely will. I think I need to find a different bit/go back to basics. This horse couldn’t get soft in her ribs or even do a roll back when I bought her. Right now I have her in a 3 piece medium shank wright gag. |
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Thanks! I think I’m going to take a week off the pattern and go back to basics and try to get her body more broke. She didn’t understand how to use her hind end at all 2 months ago, so she’s a little better but I think you’re right she needs more. Thanks! Both of you are so helpful! |
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| Mzbradford - 2018-05-09 10:08 AM
rpreast - 2018-05-09 11:57 AM
I'd work on teaching her to drive from behind and engage her hip more. She's losing momentum on the back side of each barrel and it's going to be easier to teach her how to use her body now while everything is still slow as opposed going back and trying to fix problems later.
What are some ways I can work on this?
A simple thing to do is LEAVE a turn one speed higher than you went in. walk in, trot out. Trot in, lope out etc. THis will teach them to fire out of a turn. You can also do this OUTSIDE the arena!! The barrel pattern is boring is all get out. Find an open field, a bush, and have at it. |
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Location: SW MO | FLITASTIC - 2018-05-09 2:26 PM
Mzbradford - 2018-05-09 10:08 AM
rpreast - 2018-05-09 11:57 AM
I'd work on teaching her to drive from behind and engage her hip more. She's losing momentum on the back side of each barrel and it's going to be easier to teach her how to use her body now while everything is still slow as opposed going back and trying to fix problems later.
What are some ways I can work on this?
A simple thing to do is LEAVE a turn one speed higher than you went in. walk in, trot out. Trot in, lope out etc. THis will teach them to fire out of a turn. You can also do this OUTSIDE the arena!! The barrel pattern is boring is all get out. Find an open field, a bush, and have at it.
I’ll defin try this! I don’t have an arena at home so she’s onlu sees them if i haul :) |
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Location: SW MO | Thanks everyone! I have been working on these exercises at home in the pasture and I have to say I LOVE the videos on the beginning steps to teaching the spin. Big improvements so far. Thank you so much! |
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Location: WYOMING | Mzbradford - 2018-05-14 1:25 PM
Thanks everyone! I have been working on these exercises at home in the pasture and I have to say I LOVE the videos on the beginning steps to teaching the spin. Big improvements so far. Thank you so much!
Awesome! Glad to hear it! |
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