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glitzandgrit
Reg. Dec 2017
Posted 2018-05-25 11:22 AM
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What are your favourite drills to teach an overly round and bendy horse to bring their outside shoulder across? She is a very hot sensitive mare, so I need some good slow work ideas...TIA
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2018-05-25 11:25 AM
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Teach a beginning reining spin. Look up Larry Trocha on youtube he has a 3 video series on the beginning spin.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2018-05-25 12:01 PM
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 I do shoulder in/shoulder out exercises, and counterarc around the barrel. 
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2018-05-25 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: outside shoulder drills


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geronabean - 2018-05-25 12:25 PM

Teach a beginning reining spin. Look up Larry Trocha on youtube he has a 3 video series on the beginning spin.

So let me explain why I count on this HEAVILY to train shoulder movement.
This brings the outside rein back into existence. Most people just use the outside rein (IF AT ALL) to straighten or steady across the pen or even worse to pull their nose away and point their shoulder into a barrel. They rely on that inside rein to pull the horse around a barrel. Ok this is fine and works lot of the time BUT it can often teach a horse to drift their shoulder to the outside (blow out) of a turn. It can also get their body and face out of position to have a straight line to the next barrel. If you have to pull a horse around a barrel to make them finish a turn then that turn is going to be slower.

When turning a barrel the outside rein is going to usually hit the outside neck and it is going to be on the backside and exit of a turn. For most horses this doesn't mean anything and Ive even been told it confuses the horse to have that rein rest on that outside neck. I say if you teach your horse that this is a cue to move that shoulder then there is no confusion. That outside rein hits the neck and the horse knows to cross over to move that shoulder and finish the turn with a way snappier exit.

The basic moves, hand position, rein position, body position, etc in a beginning reining turn will teach you and your horse what that outside rein can be for. I have made some adaptions to suit my barrel training but these standard basic video(s) will get you thinking and can get your horse dialed into this method of finishing a turn. You don't need to spin like a reiner to learn and teach what makes sense for a barrel turn.

Hope this makes better sense than my first post!

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WrapN3MN
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2018-05-25 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: outside shoulder drills





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glitzandgrit
Reg. Dec 2017
Posted 2018-05-25 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: outside shoulder drills


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geronabean - 2018-05-25 1:38 PM

geronabean - 2018-05-25 12:25 PM

Teach a beginning reining spin. Look up Larry Trocha on youtube he has a 3 video series on the beginning spin.

So let me explain why I count on this HEAVILY to train shoulder movement.
This brings the outside rein back into existence. Most people just use the outside rein (IF AT ALL) to straighten or steady across the pen or even worse to pull their nose away and point their shoulder into a barrel. They rely on that inside rein to pull the horse around a barrel. Ok this is fine and works lot of the time BUT it can often teach a horse to drift their shoulder to the outside (blow out) of a turn. It can also get their body and face out of position to have a straight line to the next barrel. If you have to pull a horse around a barrel to make them finish a turn then that turn is going to be slower.

When turning a barrel the outside rein is going to usually hit the outside neck and it is going to be on the backside and exit of a turn. For most horses this doesn't mean anything and Ive even been told it confuses the horse to have that rein rest on that outside neck. I say if you teach your horse that this is a cue to move that shoulder then there is no confusion. That outside rein hits the neck and the horse knows to cross over to move that shoulder and finish the turn with a way snappier exit.

The basic moves, hand position, rein position, body position, etc in a beginning reining turn will teach you and your horse what that outside rein can be for. I have made some adaptions to suit my barrel training but these standard basic video(s) will get you thinking and can get your horse dialed into this method of finishing a turn. You don't need to spin like a reiner to learn and teach what makes sense for a barrel turn.

Hope this makes better sense than my first post!


Thanks, yes this makes total sense...thanks for typing it out...will head over and check out the videos
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skye
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2018-05-25 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: outside shoulder drills


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Yes to what 'geronabean' replied.  I will add that shortening the rein could help.  The running in too long of reins most of the time does not apply the out side rein and too much inside thus the too much bend and blow out from turn. 

Edited by skye 2018-05-25 9:17 PM
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cecollins0811
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2018-05-26 7:22 PM
Subject: RE: outside shoulder drills



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Just my two cents, if the drilling might be too much for your sensitive horse to do a lot of them, you could try a Mullen mouthpiece. Helped my noodley horse a lot since I can't do a lot of drills on him otherwise he gets too frustrated or too into it when I don't want him to.
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got boost?
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2018-05-28 10:59 AM
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squares will help alot with this too 
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