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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2018-05-31 6:14 PM
Subject: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles



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I just got a new (to me) Double J Pozzi. On the off side, it has a halfbreed latigo instead of the standard off billet that I'm accustomed to. So, my question is, with the adjustable rigging on the saddle, I'd like to use the center position where you use the front AND back rigging options to cinch up. Here's a diagram...
http://doublejsaddlery.com/files/cat_images/3-way-rigging-flyer.jpg

So, how the heck do I maneuver the halfbreed latigo on the opposite side so that the saddle is cinched in the center position on both sides.

Do I make any sense?

Here is an image of the halfbreed latigo stolen from the Caldwell site...
http://www.caldwellsaddle.com/tips.html

Can I use it somehow in the center position or do I need to buy another full length one like is on the other side of the saddle?
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-05-31 6:38 PM
Subject: RE: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles



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horsegirl - 2018-05-31 6:14 PM I just got a new (to me) Double J Pozzi. On the off side, it has a halfbreed latigo instead of the standard off billet that I'm accustomed to. So, my question is, with the adjustable rigging on the saddle, I'd like to use the center position where you use the front AND back rigging options to cinch up. Here's a diagram... http://doublejsaddlery.com/files/cat_images/3-way-rigging-flyer.jpg So, how the heck do I maneuver the halfbreed latigo on the opposite side so that the saddle is cinched in the center position on both sides. Do I make any sense? Here is an image of the halfbreed latigo stolen from the Caldwell site... http://www.caldwellsaddle.com/tips.html Can I use it somehow in the center position or do I need to buy another full length one like is on the other side of the saddle?

I would just buy another full lenght one, you want it to be in the same position on both side, I have 3 Double J saddle with the 3 way rigging and these saddle came brand new with the same lenght billets on both sides. You want the pressure to be the same on both sides.  
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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2018-05-31 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles



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Exactly! I wasn't sure if I was missing something. I guess I'll have to order one. Until then, I'll use front position, I guess. Thanks for responding. I know it was confusing for me to try to explain. 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-05-31 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles



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horsegirl - 2018-05-31 6:40 PM Exactly! I wasn't sure if I was missing something. I guess I'll have to order one. Until then, I'll use front position, I guess. Thanks for responding. I know it was confusing for me to try to explain. 

You did good at explaining, I caught on real quick,lol. 
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TheDutchMan01
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2018-06-01 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles


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You may call double J and get one or if you buy one you'll have to cut it off. I personally took all of mine off because its very easy to cinch up and not realize that the buckle isn't buckled on the off side. It has a tendency to come undone when the tension isn't there. I just use the front slot and a regular off billet on the off side. I honestly cannot tell a difference what so ever between using both or just the front.
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2018-06-01 9:01 AM
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Yep...can’t use that setup with a half breed....
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-06-01 12:26 PM
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For the ones that do buy a saddle with the 3 way rigging Some are confused on how this set up is done, but its really important to rig you horse up the same on both sides, I have seen alot that are uneven, alot of times I have seen just a billet on the right side like a half breed like the OP was talking about in the back/or front position while the left side is rigged different, this will cause your horse to get really sore, got to have the same on both sides.. Someone was telling me one time how the Double J 3 way rigging saddle was making their horse really sore they showed how they were doing the rigging and just had a reg. billet on the back on the right side and cinched up opposite on the left side. Was a big no no. 
Just saying this here just in case some are chinching up like it was a normal rigging, And I saw this alot..Not saying anyone on here is doing that but just had to say this 


Edited by Southtxponygirl 2018-06-01 12:31 PM
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dRowe
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2018-06-01 3:57 PM
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Does anyone have a pic of their 3-way off billet done up? I just got one today and don’t know what to do with the extra length at the end. There isn’t a keeper on the off side, so does it just hang down??? I don’t get it.
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2018-06-01 4:07 PM
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dRowe - 2018-06-01 3:57 PM

Does anyone have a pic of their 3-way off billet done up? I just got one today and don’t know what to do with the extra length at the end. There isn’t a keeper on the off side, so does it just hang down??? I don’t get it.

I just run the extra back up through the ring, and it hangs diagonal behind my back girth kinda...it doesn't flop around anyway.
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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2018-06-01 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles



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dRowe - 2018-06-01 4:57 PM Does anyone have a pic of their 3-way off billet done up? I just got one today and don’t know what to do with the extra length at the end. There isn’t a keeper on the off side, so does it just hang down??? I don’t get it.

 On my last saddle that had one, I stuck it in the loop on the cinch. 
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Timber Creek
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2018-06-02 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles



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Southtxponygirl - 2018-06-01 12:26 PM

For the ones that do buy a saddle with the 3 way rigging Some are confused on how this set up is done, but its really important to rig you horse up the same on both sides, I have seen alot that are uneven, alot of times I have seen just a billet on the right side like a half breed like the OP was talking about in the back/or front position while the left side is rigged different, this will cause your horse to get really sore, got to have the same on both sides.. Someone was telling me one time how the Double J 3 way rigging saddle was making their horse really sore they showed how they were doing the rigging and just had a reg. billet on the back on the right side and cinched up opposite on the left side. Was a big no no.Β 
Just saying this here just in case some are chinching up like it was a normal rigging, And I saw this alot..Not saying anyone on here is doing that but just had to say thisΒ 

I'm guilty of that too. I have one of those double sewn off billets. They are really easy to adjust. But after reading this post, I will have to change it.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2018-06-02 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles



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Timber Creek - 2018-06-02 9:43 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-06-01 12:26 PM For the ones that do buy a saddle with the 3 way rigging Some are confused on how this set up is done, but its really important to rig you horse up the same on both sides, I have seen alot that are uneven, alot of times I have seen just a billet on the right side like a half breed like the OP was talking about in the back/or front position while the left side is rigged different, this will cause your horse to get really sore, got to have the same on both sides.. Someone was telling me one time how the Double J 3 way rigging saddle was making their horse really sore they showed how they were doing the rigging and just had a reg. billet on the back on the right side and cinched up opposite on the left side. Was a big no no. 
Just saying this here just in case some are chinching up like it was a normal rigging, And I saw this alot..Not saying anyone on here is doing that but just had to say this 
I'm guilty of that too. I have one of those double sewn off billets. They are really easy to adjust. But after reading this post, I will have to change it.
Check out Double J's web site, you can read about how to use this rigging set up, I'll try to load that picture but the wording may be to small to read, but I'll give it a try. 
Added another one that I found its not a Double J saddle but it explains the different positions.. 


Edited by Southtxponygirl 2018-06-02 1:21 PM




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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2018-06-03 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles


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I see what you are asking. Start the half breed through cinch then split half over left rig then the other half over right rig bring both back to cinch and buckle off as usual now you have the center rig. Note the strap will not be facing the same way back and front will show, as another said both sides must be done the same way. When cinching your latigo starts on the left through cinch loop over right rig and pulled tight.

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Timber Creek
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2018-06-04 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: Cinch/Off billet question Double J saddles



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Southtxponygirl - 2018-06-02 1:10 PM

Timber Creek - 2018-06-02 9:43 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-06-01 12:26 PM For the ones that do buy a saddle with the 3 way rigging Some are confused on how this set up is done, but its really important to rig you horse up the same on both sides, I have seen alot that are uneven, alot of times I have seen just a billet on the right side like a half breed like the OP was talking about in the back/or front position while the left side is rigged different, this will cause your horse to get really sore, got to have the same on both sides.. Someone was telling me one time how the Double J 3 way rigging saddle was making their horse really sore they showed how they were doing the rigging and just had a reg. billet on the back on the right side and cinched up opposite on the left side. Was a big no no.Β 
Just saying this here just in case some are chinching up like it was a normal rigging, And I saw this alot..Not saying anyone on here is doing that but just had to say thisΒ 
I'm guilty of that too. I have one of those double sewn off billets. They are really easy to adjust. But after reading this post, I will have to change it.
Check out Double J's web site, you can read about how to use this rigging set up, I'll try to load that picture but the wording may be to small to read, but I'll give it a try.Β 
Added another one that I found its not a Double J saddle but it explains the different positions..Β 

Thanks!
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